Deathwing vs. Ganondorf

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I am not yet convinced. uhuh I don't think enough information has been exchanged for a call to be made one way or the other with much seriousness.

Deathwing can rearrange land masses and is the Earth Aspect, this doesn't translate to rearranging Ganon's face and is not really the power he'll be bringing to bear on Ganon who is not a land mass. Physically I'm not sure he's Ganon's match but meh.

Ganon's got his own super badass large scale feats to be pointed out as counterpoints to the cataclysm such as halting the flow of night and day or covering the entire great sea in a powerful storm, both with his power sealed away, and he frequently takes beatings from a sword that can cut continents (small ones, probably) out of the earth in single swings, in the hands of a character with varying levels of '**** you' strength. Two notably, OoT and TP Link.

http://zelda.com/universe/pedia/g.jsp

OoT Link gets the golden gauntlets. Golden gauntlets can move mountains. TP Link is likely the stronger of the two. shrug Ganon himself is a match for them in strength, proving stronger than OoT Link by disarming him, and forcing TP Link to use clear effort in their sword lock while weakened from a four round beat down.

Physically he may very well dominate Deathwing. Magically who knows. It could even end up a stalemate with neither able to destroy or KO the other.

While it's true that it's DW being the Earth Aspect that allows him to cause such destruction, it can also be used in combat. Such as causing a volcano to erupt beneath someone's feet. I don't think we've ever been given, or maybe I missed it, the precise extent of DW's sheer physical strength, but it's ought to be pretty massive. Through size alone, DW is class 100+, but it's likely much higher as he can smash through rock like nothing, not to mention strength can be increased via magic.

I do find the fact that Ganon "turned off" the Sun kinda baffling. Obviously he couldn't have literally stopped the fusion inside a star or celestial bodies from moving, it must have been some sort of an illusion or trickery. Is the sea feat from Wind Waker? Maybe I'm not remembering it correctly, but the sea that was covered in the storm was either quite tiny or not the whole of the sea was covered. Either way, this isn't really on Deathwing's level.

So how small does a continent have to be to be cut out with a sword or is the sword just humongous? Am I missing something obvious?

The whole "gives a man strength to move mountains" is such a common hyperbole pretty much everywhere. The best feat, I believe, is Link tossing a big-ass slab of rock using the Gauntlets. Deathwing could probably catch that in his jaws.

Ganon can't really hurt DW in any real way, magically or physically. Perhaps DW won't be able to get rid of Ganon either, but DW did once use a spell that deletes things from existence.

Deathwing is big, and strong, but I'd need some clearer indication of his physical power. shrug

How Ganondorf caused eternal night with his power sealed away isn't expanded on, but the storm he conjured covered the entire great sea, which at the time was all of the known world, lol. It's on just as large a scale and Ganondorf did it without the bulk of his power, and it's not tied to a specific trait such as being, say, the sky aspect. 😛 Though I don't think storm conjuring will be of any use against Deathwing.

And large enough to support the human population of the Earth at the time.

The Master Sword cut Skyloft out of the Earth's surface and raised it above the cloud seal. This is far from the most ridiculous thing the sword has done.

Also, dismiss the quote as you like but even lower tier Links have hinted at strength approaching what's stated there. SS Link for example physically beat down Ghirahim and duelled Demise in one on one combat. Ghirahim can shatter barriers that hold back millions of tons of water with his physical strength and Demise, while in the form of the Imprisoned and summarily weakened shook an entire valley to the extent Groose wondered if the ground was not truly solid.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Deathwing is big, and strong, but I'd need some clearer indication of his physical power. shrug

How Ganondorf caused eternal night with his power sealed away isn't expanded on, but the storm he conjured covered the entire great sea, which at the time was all of the known world, lol. It's on just as large a scale and Ganondorf did it without the bulk of his power, and it's not tied to a specific trait such as being, say, the sky aspect. 😛 Though I don't think storm conjuring will be of any use against Deathwing.

And large enough to support the human population of the Earth at the time.

The Master Sword cut Skyloft out of the Earth's surface and raised it above the cloud seal. This is far from the most ridiculous thing the sword has done.

Also, dismiss the quote as you like but even lower tier Links have hinted at strength approaching what's stated there. SS Link for example physically beat down Ghirahim and duelled Demise in one on one combat. Ghirahim can shatter barriers that hold back millions of tons of water with his physical strength and Demise, while in the form of the Imprisoned and summarily weakened shook an entire valley to the extent Groose wondered if the ground was not truly solid.

We just don't know his exact physical strength, but it's massive. The rock toss that Link performed does not compare.

I just looked up some videos and the storm is definitely not covering the entire world as there are areas that are nice and pleasant without a drop of rain in sight. The storm itself is nothing out of the ordinary(except that it supposedly covers a massive area), as well. I don't think it would be useful against, well, pretty much anyone.

Earth or Hyrule? How many people even live on Hyrule?

So how big is Skyloft? How many people live there?

I don't know if destroying a barrier that holds back a crapton of water is such a good feat. Deathwing destroyed a dam that holds back a ton of water just by flying over it. Water is very, very, very easy to hold back. Even vast quantities of it.

Hmm. I'd like to see that valley. Again, DW can shake a valley with a fart and that's not even because he's the Earth Aspect.

There's a LoZ manga?

It's in Hyrule Historia.

There are some. Yeah. Don't think any of them are canon though.

Originally posted by ares834
There are some. Yeah. Don't think any of them are canon though.