Originally posted by ares834👆 There's also this:
While that is likely the impact still crushed the car's roof. It's still a great durability feat.
And before he crushed Scarecrow's van, he was rammed into a concrete pillar at moderate speed while on the side of said van, and got right back up. I can post even more durability-related feats if need be... Really shouldn't have to, though.
Originally posted by Silent MasterNo one said that. However, there's no denying that Bats has endured physical rigors that would otherwise harm/incapacitate an 'average' person. Point being: Bruce's body armor gives him huge resistance to injury... This is likely how he was able to endure Bane's strikes without being killed.
So, the argument is now "Rachel and Batman have superhuman durability?"
I'm also not quite sure why people think it's out of the question for Bane to bust a few holes through concrete, when Bruce was shown busting a brick wall with a casual kick earlier in the film..?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n13_EeBx69g
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I'm not comparing concrete to brick, btw. However, brick is most certainly harder than plaster.
Originally posted by Galan007
👆 There's also this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWdsOx210QE
(2:50)And before he crushed Scarecrow's van, he was rammed into a concrete pillar at moderate speed while on the side of said van, and got right back up. I can post even more durability-related feats if need be... Really shouldn't have to, though.
No one said that. However, there's no denying that Bats has endured physical rigors that would otherwise harm/incapacitate an 'average' person. Point being: Bruce's body armor gives him huge resistance to injury... This is likely how he was able to endure Bane's strikes without being killed.
I'm also not quite sure why people think it's out of the question for Bane to bust a few holes through concrete, when Bruce was shown busting a brick wall with a casual kick earlier in the film..?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n13_EeBx69g
(0:17)I'm not comparing concrete to brick, btw. However, brick is most certainly harder than plaster.
It was my understanding Bruce could only do that because of the brace. Imo it was a hollow pillar with a strong ascetic covering just not concrete strong. Regardless Bane is clearly strong but prior to the pillar batman enrages Bane. Soooo it was also my opinion that the pillar was more then just his strength. You add Bane's strength, him raging(adrenalin pumping), and that he can't feel pain and you get the aforementioned feat.
Originally posted by BlackZero30xNever said otherwise. He still did it, is all I'm saying.
It was my understanding Bruce could only do that because of the brace.
Originally posted by BlackZero30xI believe it was concrete-esque material. May not have been, but imo that certainly would make more sense than a brittle material, like plaster.
Imo it was a hollow pillar with a strong ascetic covering just not concrete strong.
Originally posted by BlackZero30xNever said otherwise. He still did it, is all I'm saying.
Regardless Bane is clearly strong but prior to the pillar batman enrages Bane. Soooo it was also my opinion that the pillar was more then just his strength. You add Bane's strength, him raging(adrenalin pumping), and that he can't feel pain and you get the aforementioned feat.
Originally posted by Galan007
How would you expect broken concrete to fall out of a hole? Not as rubble?
If you want me to believe that it was solid concrete that Bane punched through, find me something in the movie that stated the columns were solid concrete...hell I'll even accept commentary from the DVD or a writer interview.
a.) You didn't answer my question(s).
b.) If you want me to believe that Nolan's intent was to have Bane punching through brittle material, find me something in the movie that stated the columns were brittle material... Hell I'll even accept commentary from the DVD or a writer interview.
cwutididthere? 🙂
Again, I personally think it makes more sense to showcase Bane's strength by having him punch through material that... Not everyone can punch through. After all, Nolan did the same basic thing earlier in the film when he had Bruce(/w/ a super-kneebrace) bust a brick wall with a casual kick.
Originally posted by Galan007
a.) You didn't answer my question(s).
b.) If you want me to believe that Nolan's intent was to have Bane punching through brittle material, find me something in the movie that stated the colums were brittle material... Hell I'll even accept commentary from the DVD or a writer interview.cwutididthere? 🙂
You're claiming that it's solid concrete, that means the burden is on you.
Originally posted by Silent MasterYou're claiming the material was brittle, despite having nothing....concrete 😖hifty:....to support your claim.
You're claiming that it's solid concrete, that means the burden is on you.
So no, the burden of proof is not on me... Nor is it on you. All we have to go by is what we feel Nolan was trying to convey in that particular scene. That said, I've already stated my position on the matter multiple times. Once more: I personally think it makes more sense to showcase Bane's strength by having him punch through material that... Not everyone can punch through. After all, Nolan did the same basic thing earlier in the film when he had Bruce(/w/ a super-kneebrace) bust a brick wall with a casual kick.
Originally posted by -Pr-I don't think he beats Spock, tbh. I do think he punched through concrete-esque material, though.
As much as I might think it was implied that Bane was tough enough to punch through concrete, I'm still not sure he could take Spock, tbh.
Originally posted by Galan007
You're claiming the material was brittle, despite having nothing....concrete 😖hifty:....to support your claim.So no, the burden of proof is not on me. Nor is it on you. All we have to go by here is what Nolan was trying to convey in that particular scene. That said, I've already stated my position on the matter multiple times. Once more: I personally think it makes more sense to showcase Bane's strength by having him punch through material that... Not everyone can punch through. After all, Nolan did the same basic thing earlier in the film when he had Bruce(/w/ a super-kneebrace) bust a brick wall with a casual kick.
See, now you're just lying as I never once said that the material was brittle...all I've said is that I don't believe that is was solid concrete.
Now, do you have any proof to back up your claim?
Originally posted by Silent MasterSooo if the material wasn't brittle, like plaster... Yet wasn't concrete... Then what exactly do you think it was? Where is your speculation coming from..?
See, now you're just lying as I never once said that the material was brittle...all I've said is that I don't believe that is was solid concrete.Now, do you have any proof to back up your claim?
Lol, did you not read anything I just said?
Originally posted by Galan007
Sooo if the material wasn't brittle, like plaster... Yet wasn't concrete... Then what exactly do you think it was? Where is your speculation coming from..?Lol, did you not read anything I just said?
I've read enough to know that Bane punching though "solid concrete" is part of your argument as to why he'd beat Spock....so do you have any proof that the column was actually made of solid concrete?
Originally posted by Silent Master
I've read enough to know that Bane punching though "solid concrete" is part of your argument as to why he'd beat Spock.
Originally posted by Galan007
I never said anything in regard to who wins this match. Just that in addition to Bane's other feats, he also beat the crap out of said pillar.
Originally posted by Galan007Lol.
I don't think he beats Spock, tbh. I do think he punched through concrete-esque material, though.
You might want to skim through this thread again. It'll probably sink in better the second time. 👆