Originally posted by Galan007
As has already been mentioned: we know Owen's mental stability affects his powers greatly. During DA, he was at the most mentally unstable we've ever seen him-- the dude had become a full-blown schizo, for christ sake. That alone should suffice as more than enough proof that he was neutered, for anyone who knows anything about Owen's history.I can agree that Owen was more powerful than a herald, but based on what we saw, DA Owen certainly wasn't on par with a high-end Skyfather. This wasn't the same Owen who, while mentally stable, could casually affect the entire multiverse(and beyond) with ease. If Owen was intended to have been that powerful during DA, the audience would have been made blatantly aware of such-- but we definitely were not. Quite the contrary, in fact.
Fact is: outside of a few select comics, Owen is rarely ever touted as a multiversal+ powerhouse because of the very reasons I just mentioned. His mental state affects his power across the board-- and more times than not, his mental state=unstable.
Well done Galan for your fair unbiased position, your always fair when showing evidence you and handful are a few that do it on a consistent bases, other people on this thread are just trolling and low balling. Much respect sir!!
Originally posted by the Darkone
Well done Galan for your fair unbiased position, your always fair when showing evidence you and handful are a few that do it on a consistent bases, other people on this thread are just trolling and low balling. Much respect sir!!
You can stop the circle jerk of posters that agree with your irrational and uneducated viewpoint anytime now...
Originally posted by Silent Masteractually that would make it the opposite of he believes that Odin will win.
Actually, didn't Darkone say that Odin wins? that would make his opinion the educated and correct viewpoint.
Sentry can reform at will
Sentry can disperse Odin's molecules
Odin can't vaporize a high Herald.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Actually, didn't Darkone say that Odin wins? that would make his opinion the educated and correct viewpoint.
That's why he's on my ignore list, he acting like whinning b!!!h because majority the people has side against sentry/void DA MM battle where it has been proven MM de-powered himself. If he tried debate galan, me master, white witch would destroy him and his argue menus with ease
Originally posted by the Darkonei can't understand these sentences. Proofread your posts for the future please.
That's why he's on my ignore list, he acting like whinning b!!!h because majority the people has side against sentry/void DA MM battle where it has been proven MM de-powered himself. If he tried debate galan, me master, white witch would destroy him and his argue menus with ease
Originally posted by the Darkone
That's why he's on my ignore list, he acting like whinning b!!!h because majority the people has side against sentry/void DA MM battle where it has been proven MM de-powered himself. If he tried debate galan, me master, white witch would destroy him and his argue menus with ease
Yeah, and obama won a second term with a supposed majority too... And how's that working out.
And I'm on your self imposed ignore list because you can't intelligently respond to any of my questions and still support your narrative of idiocy.
Originally posted by Galan007
I agree. DA Owen clearly wasn't a trans-multiversal power, nor was he a multiversal power, nor was he a universal power, nor was he a galactic power, nor was he a planetary power.During DA, Owen's 'warp' was the size of a small town(at the very most), and he was evidently unable to extend his influence beyond that. Example: it wasn't until Norman came into his warp(aka. "world"😉 that Owen was able to affect him-- "You came into my world. So I control the world around you.":
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16900032/Dark_Avengers_-_Molecule_Man_v2-052.jpg.html
In the same scan Owen also makes the distinction that he can only control the molecules of the world that exist AROUND him.Aside from that, Owen personally teleported to the exact location of each one of the Dark Avengers individually before using his molecular manipulation to defeat them(scans can be provided if need be.) This further suggests that he could only control the molecules in his general vicinity, otherwise he would've simply tooled all of the Avengers simultaneously from a remote location.
^^ 👆
Originally posted by Galan007
I agree. DA Owen clearly wasn't a trans-multiversal power, nor was he a multiversal power, nor was he a universal power, nor was he a galactic power, nor was he a planetary power.During DA, Owen's 'warp' was the size of a small town(at the very most), and he was evidently unable to extend his influence beyond that.
You know what's funny about that statement? It's easy debunkable as well.
BESIDES THE RIDICULOUS FACT, that some users here expect a character to ALWAYS perform at his fullest in order to take him seriously... there is something else...
AND THIS IS NOW CONTEXT, SO ****ING PAY ATTENTION!
You say that Molecule Man didn't affect the entire multiverse and therefore was weakened, but story-wise he didn't even want to affect anything else besides the city, since that was where he was from and he only wanted to be left alone in his home town:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/108566/3417785-dark-avengers-012-pg-06.jpg
"I don't want the world. I want here."
"I was born here. I want it."
Originally posted by NemeBro
MM is a character whose power level is partially or wholly dictated by his mental state.His mental state had him not desiring to affect the world with his power.
Good job crushing your own argument. 👆
One more joker, who pulls off nonsense out of his butt.
Originally posted by NemeBro
His mental state had him not desiring to affect the world with his power.
Especially that part is hilarious. Now the idiotic haters in this thread are at a point, where they have completely lost it.
B!tch(es) please, you're not even qualified to fry an egg. Talking about mental stability and instability of a troubled / tragic character is the last thing you should even consider doing.
Molecule Man is not a character, who simply affects universes for the jiggles. There is more to him. He has his own goals and his goal during that arc was to find piece in his hometown, therefore he only affected the city as stated by the character himself.
Originally posted by NemeBro
MM is a character whose power level is partially or wholly dictated by his mental state.His mental state had him not desiring to affect the world with his power.
Good job crushing your own argument. 👆
LMFAO
DA MM mental state wasn't to great to begin with, and what doesn't help Sentry defeating MM argument,prior to his fight with Owen restricted himself even further because he was afraid what his evil persona will do in FF 27. Even a mentally stable Owen is universe buster and this version of MM would toyed DA and dismissed them with a gesture and this MM is passive compare to his Evil self that would have scatter their atoms including Sentry across the trans multiverse. DA MM couldn't even affect the state he was in, just a town a generalize area, I mean come on that alone should show everybody that MM was not hit on all cylinders.
DA MM powers you could say it was trans if that, but his powers was no where near Multiverse or Cube Levels, Elder God, Sky Father levels hell he wasn't even planetary level for god sakes it was reduce to a town area.
Normal Owen could create countless of galaxies with a gesture, lets be real here an fair here; Sentry is powerful, yes no doubt he is Thor and Silver Surfer peer bottom line with feats they are peers, Sentry seem more powerful he tends to not hold back most of the time as where Thor and Silver Surfer have a track record of hold back.
But that doesn't mean Sentry can beat a sound mind Molecule Man or Evil, that would have to include some serious PIS beyond comprehension. Sentry defeated a handicap MM that wasn't mentally stable, and who wanted to be caught, and punish. MM in DA wasn't the real Molecule Man or Evil Molecule Man just a shell of his former self.
Odin wins by the way since he doesn't have that problem.
