Originally posted by Tony Stark
as does SENTRY when he chooses to only use just fractions of his powers to overload to disintegration The Absorbing man. (Whom absorbed The Odinforce without issue) Owen like SENTRY can increase his powers on a whim too right?
Sentry didn't just use a fraction of his power against absorbing man, he used all of it.
Absorbing man went against Odin ....... 48 years ago ..... and lost in the end (Odin ended it literally with a gesture, though AM was certainly portrayed as being a formidable opponent), AM couldn't do any real damage to Odin either, you know. Not to mention that back then, Odin, while he had some cool feats especially in his 1st encounter with Surtur prior to his battle with absorbing man, didn't have that much of feats on a scale as he does today, unlike Molecule Man who, from his very 1st appearance, was stated to be able to destroy universes, plural (and this isn't a hyperbole, since it was backed by secondary evidence) which was a very rare case back then (in 1963).
Still, before Dark Avengers, Molecule man was imprisoned in the raft due to his self-imposed limitations. Basically, the same thing is show in Fantastic Four: Foes.
That, along with....common sense (coz i don't see how can anyone claim that DA MM was trans-multiversal/multiversal), suggests that Owen was limiting himself.
Originally posted by operator616
Sentry didn't just use a fraction of his power against absorbing man, he used all of it.Absorbing man went against Odin ....... 48 years ago ..... and lost in the end (Odin ended it literally with a gesture, though AM was certainly portrayed as being a formidable opponent), AM couldn't do any real damage to Odin either, you know. Not to mention that back then, Odin, while he had some cool feats especially in his 1st encounter with Surtur prior to his battle with absorbing man, didn't have that much of feats on a scale as he does today, unlike Molecule Man who, from his very 1st appearance, was stated to be able to destroy universes, plural (and this isn't a hyperbole, since it was backed by secondary evidence) which was a very rare case back then (in 1963).
Still, before Dark Avengers, Molecule man was imprisoned in the raft due to his self-imposed limitations. Basically, the same thing is show in Fantastic Four: Foes.
That, along with....common sense (coz i don't see how can anyone claim that DA MM was trans-multiversal/multiversal), suggests that Owen was limiting himself.
He's lowballing just like H18a and Enzure; they dont read context at all they just go by the art and that's it.
FF Annual 27 even states that MM restricted himself after his battle with Beyonder. Is is the same MM Sentry defeted yes and no, the MM sentry defeated was self restricted and mental issues who's powers only worked local not universal. As where MM in FF Annual was on above abstract level causing trans multi-universal collapse and didn't give a damn hence he was called Evil Molecule Man Kubik had to rson with him. Dark Avengers Molecule Man was having mental issues and was not firing on all cyclinders; if Owen was at his normal level Sentry would have gotten phucked up, Evil Molecule Man would have erased Sentry atom by atom.
People need to start reading and comprehending and not go by their feelings and emotion, which never ends well.
Originally posted by the Darkone
He's lowballing just like H18a and Enzure; they dont read context at all they just go by the art and that's it.FF Annual 27 even states that MM restricted himself after his battle with Beyonder. Is is the same MM Sentry defeted yes and no, the MM sentry defeated was self restricted and mental issues who's powers only worked local not universal. As where MM in FF Annual was on above abstract level causing trans multi-universal collapse and didn't give a damn hence he was called Evil Molecule Man Kubik had to rson with him. Dark Avengers Molecule Man was having mental issues and was not firing on all cyclinders; if Owen was at his normal level Sentry would have gotten phucked up, Evil Molecule Man would have erased Sentry atom by atom.
People need to start reading and comprehending and not go by their feelings and emotion, which never ends well.
I NEVER get the answer for this and I definitely don't expect one from you... When was the last time Owen WAS mentally stable?
And you obviously didn't answer my last question which, again I don't expect you to; because it goes directly against your narrative and or argument. Is Owen like SENTRY capable of depowering himself to less than full power and then at his will turn around and increase his powers back to full power?
Originally posted by DarkOdinif Sentry reforms instantly then it's not a win. Also I don't know of any feats that suggests that Odin has the ability to disintegrate a high Herald.
Because if Odin destories Sentry it is a TKO thats how
Originally posted by DarkOdinThor for starters.
And again state some issues or your just trollingyour own words
"Also Odin got phased by beings who couldn't phase Odin from another comic"
So again who???
Sentry loses and loses hard, Sentry defeated a weak sauces MM and that's a fact, Sentry didn't defeat Evil Molecule Man who is by all accounts a Multi-verse wrecker or his passive self which was still a universal power, DA MM wasn't even a trans level.
Evil Molecule Man> Galactus> Normal Molecule Man> Odin > DA Molecule Man < Sentry
Sentry dies comes back and die again; Sentry doesn't have the power to beat a high sky father or normal level Molecule Man. People need to stop over hyping Sentry defeating a MM who was self restricted.
Originally posted by the Darkone
Sentry loses and loses hard, Sentry defeated a weak sauces MM and that's a fact, Sentry didn't defeat Evil Molecule Man who is by all accounts a Multi-verse wrecker or his passive self which was still a universal power, DA MM wasn't even a trans level.Evil Molecule Man> Galactus> Normal Molecule Man> Odin > DA Molecule Man < Sentry
Sentry dies comes back and die again; Sentry doesn't have the power to beat a high sky father or normal level Molecule Man. People need to stop over hyping Sentry defeating a MM who was self restricted.
Still avoiding my questions... NOT a surprise.
"When was the last time Owen WAS mentally stable"?
"Is Owen like SENTRY capable of depowering himself to less than full power and then at his will turn around and increase his powers back to full power"?
Originally posted by the DarkoneMM power has always been the same. Plus MM tore Sentry to atoms with utmost ease. This is beyond skyfather level. Odin can't even do that.
Sentry loses and loses hard, Sentry defeated a weak sauces MM and that's a fact, Sentry didn't defeat Evil Molecule Man who is by all accounts a Multi-verse wrecker or his passive self which was still a universal power, DA MM wasn't even a trans level.Evil Molecule Man> Galactus> Normal Molecule Man> Odin > DA Molecule Man < Sentry
Sentry dies comes back and die again; Sentry doesn't have the power to beat a high sky father or normal level Molecule Man. People need to stop over hyping Sentry defeating a MM who was self restricted.
[QUOTE=14503334]Originally posted by bbrem123
Just because MM didn't effect the mutliverse in this appearance does not mean he is depowered [/QUOTE
I guess you never read FF Annual 27, where MM stated subconsciously restricted himself. MM has mental issues, MM we saw in FF Annual was the real potential Molecule Man; as where his passive unsure self was above Sky Fathers and a universe buster. Molecule Man in Dark Avengers was drastically depowered to the point he felt he couldn't stop a nuke; his powers only worked locally. Sentry defeated a mental unstable Molecule Man who wanted to be caught and was not at his normal levels and thats a proven fact. If we have multiple people siting the same source and you and your fellow band wagoners H18a, TS, Enzura cant accept that, then that's your problem.