1) Scott Summers (martial arts, x-men, has shown he can take multiple assailants wearing a blindfold)
2) Invisible Woman (going with the majority here tbh, don't know much about their h2h skills)
3) Red Skull (military)
4) Green Lantern Hal (military, JL training)
5) Kyle Rayner (Batman, JL training)
6) Aquaman (Atlantean military - he was training them after he became king, Batman, Hawkman, JL training)
7) Carol Danvers (military)
8) Ben Grimm (boxing, military)
Originally posted by comicfan11without powers and assuming strength proportional to human limitation and skills acquired over their lifetimes and having them in their primes. I have to give Cable the nod over Aquaman. His entire life has been one struggle after another moving from one threat to the next for most of his life he's been on the run doing everything he could to survive while being handicapped by the TO virus. Aquaman is no slouch but at the same time you can't compare him to Cable's raw tenacity and scope of skills he has acquired in his lifetime. So in perfectly equal bodies I have to give it to the man whom even the big boss or solid snake would have to give the nod to.
1) Scott Summers (martial arts, x-men, has shown he can take multiple assailants wearing a blindfold)2) Invisible Woman (going with the majority here tbh, don't know much about their h2h skills)
3) Red Skull (military)
4) Green Lantern Hal (military, JL training)
5) Kyle Rayner (Batman, JL training)
6) Aquaman (Atlantean military - he was training them after he became king, Batman, Hawkman, JL training)
7) Carol Danvers (military)
8) Ben Grimm (boxing, military)
If we are just making their bodies strength proportional to humans given their size Cable takes this hands down... and I'll win that argument with two words. Liefeld body.
vs. the most jacked aquaman I could find
edit: of course the tiny/constantly missing feet might be an Achilles heel
Originally posted by Uriel005
without powers and assuming strength proportional to human limitation and skills acquired over their lifetimes and having them in their primes. I have to give Cable the nod over Aquaman. His entire life has been one struggle after another moving from one threat to the next for most of his life he's been on the run doing everything he could to survive while being handicapped by the TO virus. Aquaman is no slouch but at the same time you can't compare him to Cable's raw tenacity and scope of skills he has acquired in his lifetime. So in perfectly equal bodies I have to give it to the man whom even the big boss or solid snake would have to give the nod to.If we are just making their bodies strength proportional to humans given their size Cable takes this hands down... and I'll win that argument with two words. Liefeld body.
vs. the most jacked aquaman I could find
edit: of course the tiny/constantly missing feet might be an Achilles heel
Cable can certainly take it after a good fight.
The Liefeld argument made me LOL btw (although in all seriousness being smaller might work in AQ's advantage due to his agility. He usually does flip kicks and leaping attacks in combination with a lot of grapples and some MA's).
But yeah no problem with giving Cable the nod, after a good fight.
Re: Re: They fight without powers...
Originally posted by Brockalizer1.yeah, Scott has that fight
Scott, us older brothers gotta stick together.Wasp has proven she can take a hit, but Sue has better h2h skills, courtesy Danny Rand.
Hard to say. Skull has pride on his side, but history has shown that you don't f*ck with the Jews and expect to live.
Hal, I'll take anyone in the military, even if it's the Airforce, over a scientist any day of the week.
If a military brat like Lois lost to an "artist", her father would never let her live it down. Jimmy could sit it out.
Cable has been fighting for survival all his life, fishboy goes down hard.
Again I'll take anyone trained by the military over a glorified lab rat like Drew.
Cage, when in doubt always bet on the black guy.
Originally posted by basilisk
These are cage fight matchups, no prep, all combatants are completely de-powered. So if they had super strength or durability they have the strength, durability, & speed of a regular human of their size, build, and fitness.Who wins?
1) Alex Summers vs Scott Summers
2) Wasp vs Invisible Woman
3) Red Skull vs Magneto
4) Green Lantern Hal vs Flash Barry Allen
5) Kyle Rayner vs Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lane
6) Cable vs Aquaman
7) Carol Danvers vs Jessica Drew
8) Cage vs Ben Grimm
Scott
Not sure
Skull
Hal
Rayner
Cable, though this is the closest fight of the lot for me, as Arthur can definitely make him work for it
Not sure
Grimm
Originally posted by comicfan11anything over 5 dollars and its on... I mean Cage invaded Latveria and KO'd Doom for less than 100
Yeah I won't argue.
Not that familiar with Cage's skills, but he certainly is a tough dude.
I hope Ben doesn't owe him any money before they fight
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edit: Not sure if it counts as part of his powerset.... Power to do anything to receive payment from unruly clients...
Re: They fight without powers...
Originally posted by basilisk
These are cage fight matchups, no prep, all combatants are completely de-powered. So if they had super strength or durability they have the strength, durability, & speed of a regular human of their size, build, and fitness.Who wins?
1) Alex Summers vs Scott Summers=Scott
2) Wasp vs Invisible Woman=Toss Up
3) Red Skull vs Magneto=Red Skull
4) Green Lantern Hal vs Flash Barry Allen=Hal
5) Kyle Rayner vs Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lane=Kyle
6) Cable vs Aquaman=Cable without a question IMO
7) Carol Danvers vs Jessica Drew=Jessica in a close one
8) Cage vs Ben Grimm=Ben
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Scott
Wasp
Lol. Red Skull.
Hal
Kyle
Split
Jessica
Scott - we all know his MA and sensory skills etc.
Wasp - going with her Cap training, plus her life in the Microverse where she had to fend for herself.
Red Skull - we all know why
Hal - GL H2H training, plus military service. In addition, Barry would be at a significant disadvantage as his powers are more of a crutch for him.
Kyle - the ring keeps him in tip top condition, plus:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/59300/3127802-3509106416-Sines.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/59300/3127803-7425520684-Bat%252.jpg
Fap indeed.
Split - Cable's experience should balance out Aquaman's training and (relative) lack of experience.
Jessica - trained by Hydra, SHIELD, Cap, Taskmaster, SWORD...yeah.
Ben - wrestling champ, Air Force training, plus street fighting on Yancy Street.
