Originally posted by DarkSaint85Let's put it this way, before he was even trained by Danny he was putting down bricks like Rhino and Ironclad. After he was trained by Danny, he could at least go toe to toe with characters like the hulk, and Wonderman. He was specifically trained by Danny to be able to take on and beat people that are stronger, faster, or more skilled than him.
How skilled is Cage, exactly? OK, he's had training under IF - but if he's a sh!t student, that means nothing.Ben was also a high school wrestling champion, IIRC. Plus Air Force stuff. So I doubt the MA skill gap is there, if at all.
Originally posted by JayDaDonI'm pretty certain I recall Luke fighting off about five gang members when he was still just an adolescent.
Regarding the Ben/Luke fight, Ben destroyed a gang of like 6 guys with his bare hands when he was depowered and was excited to do it. Pretty good depowered feat for him.