Originally posted by -Pr-
I wouldn't go so far as to say everybody that played it said that it's the best of the series.
they wouldn't say its the best, but it has a better and more focused story, it just feels more like a batman game with all the stuff that we were given in this Game, like Access to the Bat-Cave and Fast Travel with the Bat-Wing. a lot of my Friends also acknowledged how it has a Better and more Focused Story than City
Originally posted by Arachnid1
After beating it, the story was definitely not as good as City. The only thing this game did better than City was the boss fights. Montreal did do a good job though.
How, its more Focused, City was Good but it was to jumbled around,and embedded a lot of annoying quests when he was supposed to be Saving him self from dying.
Originally posted by RedX1852
they wouldn't say its the best, but it has a better and more focused story, it just feels more like a batman game with all the stuff that we were given in this Game, like Access to the Bat-Cave and Fast Travel with the Bat-Wing. a lot of my Friends also acknowledged how it has a Better and more Focused Story than City
Focused? Yes. Better? No. Imo, it's because it doesn't quite hit the emotional and narrative highs that city does.
Then there are the bugs/gameplay issues, as few as they may be.
When
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Bane tells Bruce that he is in his house and Alfred is about die if he doesnt hurry then Batman screamingAlfred was totally emotional.Same when he begins to have doubts that he can stop them because he couldnt even protect his own home or when he finds Alfred under thewrecks and remembers his parents death making him fill hopeless and powerless.
Originally posted by Estacado
WhenSpoiler:
Bane tells Bruce that he is in his house and Alfred is about die if he doesnt hurry then Batman screamingAlfred was totally emotional.Same when he begins to have doubts that he can stop them because he couldnt even protect his own home or when he finds Alfred under thewrecks and remembers his parents death making him fill hopeless and powerless.
It's almost the same scene but it's very well done.
Oh, I agree completely. I really do. And that scene at the end with
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Joker, where you literally just get to beat the living shit out of him, and you know how much he'll do in later years
Origins was a LOT better written than I had expected, and it's a better game than a lot of people realise, I think.
Originally posted by RedX1852
Yes Better, and Yes more Focused, i never said better game, but it has a Better Story and Boss Battle's, tell me how Arkham City's story is Better
Originally posted by RedX1852
every gamer that has played the Arkham Trilogy say this one is Better and has a more Focused story
Am I missing something? In interpreted the above as you claiming it's the best game.
Is the story more cinematic and focused? Perhaps. Is there better characters work done here? Yes, I've already stated that what Warner Bros Montreal did with Alfred, Joker, and Gordon is to be commended. Hell, they even got Bane right up until the climax.
But the gameplay, overall look, atmosphere, etc. Rocksteady had in spades and IMO Warner Bros Montreal struggled to recreate. No, Arkham Origins doesn't feel more Batman than the previous two. That's exactly what got the first two critical acclaim.
The Batcave is nice but not a huge deal. There was a Batcave in the first game and the second one had the whole "trapped" theme going on and the game went fine without one.
Arkham Asylum 9.5/10
Arkham City 10/10
Arkham Origins 8/10
The only reason I give Asylum a lower score is due to the gameplay and replay value going down after City released. Only natural, since it came out first and laid the foundation. So you may can see where I'm coming from with this game. Instead of improving overall in big leaps like Rocksteady did between their two Warner Bros Montreal made some nice touches and besides the improved characterizations and focuses on the story made no real improvements to the gameplay.
Don't get it twisted. Not saying the game isn't dope. I've actually enjoyed playing it more than GTA V. Just doesn't bring the magic the previous two do. It scratches the surface but I don't get the full effect.
Originally posted by RedX1852
it very well does, every gamer that has played the Arkham Trilogy say this one is Better and has a more Focused story, but the critics are saying its repetitive magically when WB Montreal wants to make a Batman Game, it wasn't a problem for the last 2 made by Rocksteady but when WB wants to make a batman game, i gets hit with the repetitive card yet Call of Duty, Assassins Creed, and Battlefield are repetitive but no Game site is Complaining. i just find it odd that when a series that's being doing the same thing for the past 2 games, gets acclaimed but when another company wants to make the same game and add their input, their attacked with a bunch of BullSh!t so yeah Critics dont want to admit WB Montreal did a good job, or their Hypocrites
This is a false dilemma, perhaps they simply think that AC and AA are better games.
And every gamer that has played the trilogy doesn't think that. I don't. AC is my favorite. It has the best atmosphere and progressed the series forward in more meaningful ways than AO does. AO is more or less just AC with a couple tweaks (not all for the better). I will agree that AO has the best storyline in the series, though.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Am I missing something? In interpreted the above as you claiming it's the best [b]game.Is the story more cinematic and focused? Perhaps. Is there better characters work done here? Yes, I've already stated that what Warner Bros Montreal did with Alfred, Joker, and Gordon is to be commended. Hell, they even got Bane right up until the climax.
But the gameplay, overall look, atmosphere, etc. Rocksteady had in spades and IMO Warner Bros Montreal struggled to recreate. No, Arkham Origins doesn't feel more Batman than the previous two. That's exactly what got the first two critical acclaim.
The Batcave is nice but not a huge deal. There was a Batcave in the first game and the second one had the whole "trapped" theme going on and the game went fine without one.
Arkham Asylum 9.5/10
Arkham City 10/10
Arkham Origins 8/10The only reason I give Asylum a lower score is due to the gameplay and replay value going down after City released. Only natural, since it came out first and laid the foundation. So you may can see where I'm coming from with this game. Instead of improving overall in big leaps like Rocksteady did between their two Warner Bros Montreal made some nice touches and besides the improved characterizations and focuses on the story made no real improvements to the gameplay.
Don't get it twisted. Not saying the game isn't dope. I've actually enjoyed playing it more than GTA V. Just doesn't bring the magic the previous two do. It scratches the surface but I don't get the full effect. [/B]
I don't get it, how can City get a better rating because of Gameplay and not Story, i mean i liked City but it didn't have me emotionally and the story was all over the place with all these annoying Penguin Appearances got on my Nerves, City was good, but the story wasn't as strong as Origins and the only emotional part, if you call it emotional is the end when Joker Dies, but not even that was emotional for me so i don't get why Good Gameplay and Scrambled Story makes for a Better game than one that has already Good Gameplay and an even Better Story
Another thing that upsets me is all the people complaining about not having Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill not voicing the Joker and Batman, i LOVE Kevin Conroy as Batman, he is the definitive Batman but he Cant live forever, and if he was to pass before the next Batman Game comes out, than we need a replacement and Roger Craig Smith has done an excellent young, gritty Batman and Captured how he would sound if he was younger and more angry Perfectly, and he has proven himself to be an excellent Replacement but he Gets NO CREDIT, Nope Non at all, instead it all goes to Troy Baker, who is excellent but dang give some credit to Roger, and all the people complaining about Mark Hamill clearly don't know that he Retired from the Joker after Arkham City, i get it Troy Baker is a Damn Good Joker, but its like People Don't GIVE A FVCK about Batman's Voice and Voice Actor, instead its all about Troy Baker and the Joker, like come on man Roger Craig Smith has been doing good Voice Work for many Famous Heroes in Series, like Ezio in Assassins Creed, Sonic, Chris Redfield from Resident Evil, Siegfried from Soul Calibur, and Captain America and hopefully Batman, but its like people don't Admire his Good work because their all Joker, Conroy, Hamill, Troy fanatics, Seriously give Roger some Credit he did an amazing Job and he's Getting no Acknowledgment and Recognition for his work, it kinda makes me feel like they wouldn't care if Tom Kenny Voiced Batman cuz its all about the Joker like come on he was Awesome
Originally posted by RedX1852
Exactly, thats why i said this Game has a Better story and had more emotional moments and had Comic Book Accuracy, IMO A Better Story equals a better Game, and you get more drawn to it.
It's very clearly the story that HELD BACK much of the potential that could have made Origins more than a re-hashed Arkham City with a mini-hub and better bosses. No amount of effort put in a story can make an inferior game among its predecessors a masterpiece, period, especially when the game itself is limited based on it narrative placement. A good sotry doesn't excuse lackluster effort in gameplay, and I think that's what Ubisoft kept in mind making ACIV. More emotional storytelling didn't keep Beyond Two Souls from failing to live up to any of its never-warranted-from-the-start hype. Yes, I only feel AO is all that underwhelming compared to its predecessor as opposed to in general, ACIV doesn't suffer from that setback within its own series IMO.
Normally, I'm pretty even between the Arkham games and Assassin's Creed, but I feel in this case Ubisoft simply did a better job at both elevating the gameplay elements that worked best in its predecessor and maintaining the core of the series' nature. The game's priorities were pretty clear on what they wanted to emphasize-sea faring and naval battle-and they set, in my opinion, a new standard for that as a gameplay element in the adventure genre.
I think Origins is the worst of the series.
Aslyum is fantastic, AC did something different and Origins is AC 1.5.....with shitty boss fights.
I ****ing hate how Origins world is devoid of anything that makes it memorable. The first two had so many cool little tidbits about the Batman series while Origins has none of that.