I agree with you in most cases PR.
The only I disagree with is the leeway for the developer. I guess I have less tolerance for a developer for creating the third game in the series. I would expect it would be less difficult then creating the series from scratch. There is a lot of instances where a new developer takes over and gets lambasted for creating a less than good sequel to some beloved games. (creators of Bioshock 2 for example).
Also, I ****ing hate when people go, " you try making a game and then you have to right to complain". It's such a bullshit arguement. Do you have right to complain to restaurant about bad service/bad food? According to RedX, you don't so **** off if the food tastes like shit.
I live near Toronto, Canada and the mayor has been in a video where he smokes crack!.....I can't complain because I never been a mayor.
Originally posted by Smasandian
I agree with you in most cases PR.The only I disagree with is the leeway for the developer. I guess I have less tolerance for a developer for creating the third game in the series. I would expect it would be less difficult then creating the series from scratch. There is a lot of instances where a new developer takes over and gets lambasted for creating a less than good sequel to some beloved games. (creators of Bioshock 2 for example).
Also, I ****ing hate when people go, " you try making a game and then you have to right to complain". It's such a bullshit arguement. Do you have right to complain to restaurant about bad service/bad food? According to RedX, you don't so **** off if the food tastes like shit.
I live near Toronto, Canada and the mayor has been in a video where he smokes crack!.....I can't complain because I never been a mayor.
No, I get that there is an expectation of them to put out a good game. It's still the third game in the Arkham series after all. They don't get a complete pass to make a shit game just because they're a new company. I just think expectations were set somewhat higher than they should have been, personally.
I, tbh, just wanted a new Batman game. I wanted it to play as well as (or at least, close enough to) Arkham City that I would enjoy it, and I wanted a decent Batman story. I wasn't asking for innovation or for them to do what Rocksteady did by leaping forward.
I just wanted a good Batman game to add to my collection, with new content and an engaging, playable story. I feel like I got that.
I think it comes down to whether people think it's a worthy game in the series. I think it is.
And it some cases, I do too.
For instance, I just bought CoD: Ghosts knowing full well that SP will be less than 5 hours and it will bring nothing new to the series but considering I have the day off and there's a special place in my heart for CoD SP (from the days of the original Allied Assault), I bought the game.
And enjoying it as well.
Originally posted by Smasandian
And it some cases, I do too.For instance, I just bought CoD: Ghosts knowing full well that SP will be less than 5 hours and it will bring nothing new to the series but considering I have the day off and there's a special place in my heart for CoD SP (from the days of the original Allied Assault), I bought the game.
And enjoying it as well.
😂
I'll probably get Ghosts when it goes cheap. I'll only now be playing MW3 properly.
Originally posted by RedX1852
You sound Ungrateful, i bet you think you could do a better job yourselfWHAT?, Every Game in a Series plays almost the Exact Same as its previous one and only adds a few new things and rehashes and polishes its Graphics, no Game in a Series will be Completely different from the other ones, thats just asking for to much. and Developers and Game Series stick to a Style, Graphic, and Mechanics that works for them like Call of Duty, Gears of War, God of War, and Assassins Creed, and if thats the case AC4 isn't innovative ,because all its doing is expanding AC3's Naval Battles and making it a Campaign with Shark Hunting, WOW HOW MIND BLOWING AND DIFFERENT AND IS IN NOW WAY LIKE ITS PREVIOUS GAME 🙂, But when Batman adds the Bat-Cave, Fast Travel, and alters the Detective Vision and Investigator Mode a little Bit and Adds Multiplayer and does the exact same thing, Narrow Minded Biased Fans Go "OH THAT NOT IN ANY WAY ORIGINAL, ALL THESE GAMES PLAY THE SAME, IT DOESNT ADD ANYTHING TO THE SERIES, AND DOESNT CHANGE THE EXPERIENCE, ITS PREDICTABLE AND ISNT AS GOOD AS THE OTHERS" Come On Now wheres the Logic in their Hypocritical statements and yours?
Innovation is not Arkham City to Arkham Origins. That doesn't mean its a bad game, but it's still a mostly linear game that copied and pasted almost everything from its predecessor. All the people who agree with that statement (which is the majority, BTW) aren't hypocrites. They're just right.
Originally posted by Smasandian
Yeah, I would of waited but CoD games never go on sale on Steam unless its three years old.
I only really play them on console. I got MW3 for 15 euro the other day, but I'm saving it til Christmas. I love the COD story modes, but I don't play MP at all.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Innovation is Arkham Asylum to Arkham City, Assassins Creed to Assassins Creed II, Resident Evil 3 to Resident Evil 4, Metal Gear Solid 2 to Metal Gear Solid 3 (or 3 to 4), Uncharted 3 to TLOU (different franchises, but same exact developer with similar gameplay), Indigo Prophecy to Heavy Rain (etc...). The games that are fan favorites that completely changed the series for the better and are remembered the most fondly are usually the ones in the series than innovate.Innovation is not Arkham City to Arkham Origins. That doesn't mean its a bad game, but it's still a mostly linear game that copied and pasted almost everything from its predecessor. All the people who agree with that statement (which is the majority, BTW) aren't hypocrites. They're just right.
to be fair, the crime scene mechanic was something I would call innovative. the power gloves too, though less so.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Innovation is Arkham Asylum to Arkham City, Assassins Creed to Assassins Creed II, Resident Evil 3 to Resident Evil 4, Metal Gear Solid 2 to Metal Gear Solid 3 (or 3 to 4), Uncharted 3 to TLOU (different franchises, but same exact developer with similar gameplay), Indigo Prophecy to Heavy Rain (etc...). The games that are fan favorites that completely changed the series for the better and are remembered the most fondly are usually the ones in the series than innovate.Innovation is not Arkham City to Arkham Origins. That doesn't mean its a bad game, but it's still a mostly linear game that copied and pasted almost everything from its predecessor. All the people who agree with that statement (which is the majority, BTW) aren't hypocrites. They're just right.
yeah but people expecting the next game not be exactly like the other is just being nit-picky, ungrateful, have high expectations, and over all asking for to much. if you want to play a game that doesn't play the same as the last one, just play GTA, they take like 5 years between games and the only thing they add is Abilities and Customization of Clothing and polished graphics.
I Like what you call "Innovation" as much as the next guy, but the world we live in, Businesses are just like "**** YOU GIVE ME MONEY" i would love to see Batman take 7 years to be produced as long as we get the best quality, story, "Innovation" and playability possible, but your asking for to much in a world like this, where $$$ is the only thing that matters, especially to some gaming companies, if you ever have high expectations for a series, it should be GTA and RDR by Rocksteady, cuz they really seem to care about their fans and take the time to produce their games, you cant expect every game in a series to be different, i would too, but as long as we buy the product they dont give a Shit, their doing the Call of Duty, where as long as they make **** Loads of Cash, the Gamers complaining could go **** themselves cuz their rich, and their B!tching about something they cant change.
Originally posted by Smasandian
The problem with the reconstructing the crime scene is that there is nothing to it.I think they missed a really good chance of putting some gameplay elements into it instead of just hitting a button to do so....
You too are asking for to much smh, the world we live in only cares about money, and as long as their making Bank, and if their like CoD, they don't give a shit, i get what you guys are saying and i get what you wanted out of this Game, but its to much to ask for in a $$$$$$$$$$ Loving World like this, maybe WB Montreal does care, and maybe you guys are being ungrateful, but overall your asking for to Much, from a game that didn't start out with the Foundation Rocksteady did
Originally posted by Smasandian
The problem with the reconstructing the crime scene is that there is nothing to it.I think they missed a really good chance of putting some gameplay elements into it instead of just hitting a button to do so....
While I think the addition to crime scene detection was really cool I will admit they really could have taken that to a whole new level.