Originally posted by Stoic
Lobo beat the mess out of the Authority. I don't see why a guy of the Hulk's power level could not do the same.
Because when the Doctor gets it together, and isn't cowering in fear (as he was during the Lobo fight) he can bleed all of the Hulk's energy off into multiple realities, or turn it into music, or turn it into butterflies, or all of the above.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because when the Doctor gets it together, and isn't cowering in fear (as he was during the Lobo fight) he can bleed all of the Hulk's energy off into multiple realities, or turn it into music, or turn it into butterflies, or all of the above.
The Hulk wasn't affected by energy drain during the WW Hulk saga and the stories following it. He had full control of how much power he needed to accomplish the win, and he showed this is spectacular fashion. Taking out Ares in one shot fashion, who was able to give Hercules hell, defeating the X-Men with ease, toying with the Fantastic Four, and the other heroes, beating the power of 1000 exploding stars, surviving the impact of Black Bolts scream. The amount of mutants that were made to appear impotent would have defeated the Authority, and that Hulk was playing with them. Arm'Cheddon had the power to siphon energy to the point that he had the Surfer at his mercy, this should be far more than enough proof to allow people to argue that energy manipulations would have a very limited effect on this version of the Hulk. At the end of the WW Hulk mini, he was at his best, and in that form, he would have killed the Authority.
Originally posted by Stoic
The Hulk wasn't affected by energy drain during the WW Hulk saga and the stories following it. He had full control of how much power he needed to accomplish the win, and he showed this is spectacular fashion. Taking out Ares in one shot fashion, who was able to give Hercules hell, defeating the X-Men with ease, toying with the Fantastic Four, and the other heroes, beating the power of 1000 exploding stars, surviving the impact of Black Bolts scream. The amount of mutants that were made to appear impotent would have defeated the Authority, and that Hulk was playing with them. Arm'Cheddon had the power to siphon energy to the point that he had the Surfer at his mercy, this should be far more than enough proof to allow people to argue that energy manipulations would have a very limited effect on this version of the Hulk. At the end of the WW Hulk mini, he was at his best, and in that form, he would have killed the Authority.
Energy drain is one thing. And all those feats are nice. Not very applicable to the fight at hand, though.
But the Doctor toys with reality, and is a very different beast altogether from those people mentioned. It would have been better had you mentioned feats of him resisting/beating reality warpers on the scale of the Doctor.
Originally posted by Warlord
jenny relity warps him to his doom
Unless he gets to her first. This Hulk was very intelligent, and calculating let's not forget. In a forum match he would know who would be the most dangerous, and with the rate of speed that he travels he could put Jenny out of the fight within moments. I think that they could win, but I think that he had more than enough power to take this, but it would depend on who he went after first.
Authority's just a weird team. Even more than, say, Avengers where they mix streets with high heralds, there's just a huge discrepancy between the team (low herald at best, for the most part) and the Doctor (and later Jenny Q). The ways they found to write him out of stories were always amusing, because multiple times he literally ended entire story arcs and/or villains that were crushing the team in a few panels once he had his sh*t together.
His matter manip. borders on reality manipulation, and with a thought he could kill Banner before he even became the Hulk (not just in theory...he did this once to a powerful character).
Originally posted by Digi
Authority's just a weird team. Even more than, say, Avengers where they mix streets with high heralds, there's just a huge discrepancy between the team (low herald at best, for the most part) and the Doctor (and later Jenny Q). The ways they found to write him out of stories were always amusing, because multiple times he literally ended entire story arcs and/or villains that were crushing the team in a few panels once he had his sh*t together.His matter manip. borders on reality manipulation, and with a thought he could kill Banner before he even became the Hulk (not just in theory...he did this once to a powerful character).
And that's without cutting him loose and letting him do weird stuff like the Evil Doctor. I forgot that you wrote up a bit about how he's not a reality warper.
Originally posted by carver9
Depends on how the Doctor fights. Hulk could win this and LOL at energy draining working on this version of Hulk. Didn't someone try this on WWH and said it felt like they were pulling energy from an infinite well.
Why in the world would he try to energy drain? That's almost as much of a strawman as the Lobo fight. Explain to me how he beats the Doctor, presuming he's not high on drugs and is actually fighting intelligently. Doctor could swallow the sun and breath it into Hulk's anus. He could kill Banner at age 2. He could turn his arms into puppies and his legs into a hip-hop song.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And that's without cutting him loose and letting him do weird stuff like the Evil Doctor. I forgot that you wrote up a bit about how he's not a reality warper.
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