Movie Kurse vs Superman MOS

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus8 pages
Originally posted by emporerpants
Superman wins. Sorry guys, I just wasn't that impressed with any of the feats in this movie. Also, Rage, what are your thoughts on Thor piloting that ship through Asgard smashing through all those buildings? Loki even talked about how Thor was smashing half of Asgard on their way out. Didn't that seem a little reckless?

Lol, wait what?

Did you watch the same movie as everyone else? Thor took down like maybe 3 pillars, and damaged Bor's statue. That's it.

If it was Superman flying, he would have directed the ship straight at the most populated areas of the city and try and go through as many buildings as possible. He'd probably fire off some energy blasts at day-cares for good measure.

Also, half of Asgard? What? Asgard was huge. The boundaries of the city extended far from the palace. It was more like a small country. I wish we'd get to see more of it. Looks beautiful.

k. Sad that Thor didn't try to save anybody at that library at the end. He was busy fighting though right? Still, a scene of him at least trying to save them would have been nice, to show that he cared. Oh well, he had to stop bad guys, I understand.

Where you watching the same movie when you saw MOS? Superman himself destroyed about as much of Metropolis as Thor did of Asgard. Zod was the one smashing him through buildings, and the world engine caused most of the destruction. But whateves. 🙂 I did like Thor the Dark World. Just liked MOS better. To each their own.

No body in the library needed saving.

You're super butthurt.

Plot of Superman vs. Batman: "Bruce Banner has to figure out a way to bring the alien Kal-El to justice for mass murdering thousands of human beings"_ Zack Snyder

Well at least Superman doesn't take the time to get felt up by strangers on a train when the universe is in need of saving... 😛

Originally posted by ares834
Well at least Superman doesn't take the time to get felt up by strangers on a train when the universe is in need of saving... 😛
Supes only had to save Earth, Thor saved the universe.

Kal isn't ready for the big leagues.

Originally posted by Mindset
Supes only had to save Earth, Thor saved the universe.

Kal isn't ready for the big leagues.

This.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol, wait what?

He'd probably fire off some energy blasts at day-cares for good measure.


And this lol

Kal barely cleaned up his own mess, it was him activating the beacon in the kryptonian ship that brought Zod & Co to Earth.

MOS was till a notch above TTDW tho.

Originally posted by Mindset
Supes only had to save Earth, Thor saved the universe.

Kal isn't ready for the big leagues.


Thor did nothing, he was riding the tube like a flippin' tourist!

Natalie Portman saved the universe (as is her destiny, across sci-fi). And she did it by stealing the energy field rods from The Decepticons, she's that hardcore!

Thor got a £20 fine for riding the tube without a ticket though. Blummin' entitled foreigner!

I havent seen Thor 2 yet. He is one of my favorites. And I cant stand superman, but MOS and the Batman trilogy are my favorite superhero movies so far.

Originally posted by janus77
Thor did nothing, he was riding the tube like a flippin' tourist!

Natalie Portman saved the universe (as is her destiny, across sci-fi). And she did it by stealing the energy field rods from The Decepticons, she's that hardcore!

Thor got a £20 fine for riding the tube without a ticket though. Blummin' entitled foreigner!

Nope, Thor saved the universe.

Canon.

God, I really can't recall a big-name superhero movie, since IM, that was as boring as MoS.

Superman was bland, Shannon as Zod was godawful (as he is in Boardwalk Empire) and the whole plot was just ... boring.

Thor & Thor:TDW are both good films, nothing special, but good fun if you don't think about any of the nonsensical plots.

Avengers is the high-watermark of the genre, with IM3, TDK and TDR following a little behind, imo.

Originally posted by Mindset
Nope, Thor saved the universe.

Canon.


So, you fell asleep during the finale? Understandable.

Padme Forster saved the universe.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Ngghh. I don't know man. I think ultimately, I prefer Marvel's more comic book like physics when it comes to their heroes. As long as they have the occasional feats to establish that they are extremely powerful, I'm fine with them not being mass murderers.

To quote myself:

"It's actually pretty funny, I sat down to rewatch the climax of Avengers in comparison to Man of Steel to see just what about it was more heroic and satisfying to more discerning fans.

In no particular order; the following happens:

-The first Leviathan they destroy ends up exploding into a million chunks, it's corpse raining down upon a crowd of bystanders who run away in terror as it destroys a few cars.

-Hulk rampages through a crowded office building, jumps out the window onto another Leviathan, and then redirects BACK into the same office building. I can only imagine how many people were injured by shattered glass as Hulk jumps from building to building.

-Tony leads dozens of mooks and a Leviathan throughout the streets, as they explode Star Wars style into buildings and into the streets. This is despite Tony saying several times that they need to keep off the streets.

-Thor and Hulk double team another one of those stupid Leviathans, killing it and hurling its corpse down into what I can only assume is Grand Central. Once again a crowd of bystanders scream in terror as they desperately try and get away. Also worth noting that these stations were where Cap told one of the officers to start redirecting civilians to, in order to get them out of the way. Guess Thor and Hulk didn't get the memo.

It's true that the Avengers do show concern for civilians like...two times? They get some people off a bus and Cap tells some police officers to do their jobs, because apparently emergency workers have never been trained in the art of evacuating people. I guess ultimately my biggest problem with it, is that it feels so dishonest. Sanitized and squeaky clean, despite the fact that it clearly involved a death toll as large as Man of Steel's, but unlike Whedon, Goyer never shies away from the fact that it was a tragedy. Superman cries not only at the death of the Zod, but his failure to save everyone the way Jor-El knew he could. Tony thinks everyone should go out for schwarma. That displays a hell of a lot more disregard and apathy to the destruction than Kal ever did.

Meanwhile, I sneakily re-watched the final fight in Man of Steel and guess what? Superman doesn't punch Zod through any buildings. Not one. He does smash his face into some glass windows and knock him through a few construction girders, though. What an evil bastard."

Anyone arguing that the Avengers were pure heroes who caused no destruction or death is a goddamn liar. And yet people only ever complain about MoS when the Avengers cause just as much damage as Supes does and are equally as reckless as him.

Really not seeing how Kurse wins. Sure the dude would put up a hell of a fight but swatting away Mjolnir was more impressive than beating this shit out of Thor IMO. To be honest Thor and the rest of the Asgardian all appear to be chumps. I don't know if its just me expecting them to be Marvel's version of kryptonians or what but goddamn they were unimpressive.

I'm pretty sure Supes could land a few blows plus he has the advantage of flight, super-speed, and heat vision. Or he could just snap his neck 😛

Superman wins, but he'll have a tough time. Kurse is a better fighter and IMO stronger. Durability is about the same. Only thing that gives Supes advantage is his speed, flight, and maybe heat vision.

Now if it was Kurse vs. Faora... actually, let me make a thread of that right now.

Originally posted by Nephthys
To quote myself:

"It's actually pretty funny, I sat down to rewatch the climax of Avengers in comparison to Man of Steel to see just what about it was more heroic and satisfying to more discerning fans.

In no particular order; the following happens:

-The first Leviathan they destroy ends up exploding into a million chunks, it's corpse raining down upon a crowd of bystanders who run away in terror as it destroys a few cars.

-Hulk rampages through a crowded office building, jumps out the window onto another Leviathan, and then redirects BACK into the same office building. I can only imagine how many people were injured by shattered glass as Hulk jumps from building to building.

-Tony leads dozens of mooks and a Leviathan throughout the streets, as they explode Star Wars style into buildings and into the streets. This is despite Tony saying several times that they need to keep off the streets.

-Thor and Hulk double team another one of those stupid Leviathans, killing it and hurling its corpse down into what I can only assume is Grand Central. Once again a crowd of bystanders scream in terror as they desperately try and get away. Also worth noting that these stations were where Cap told one of the officers to start redirecting civilians to, in order to get them out of the way. Guess Thor and Hulk didn't get the memo.

It's true that the Avengers do show concern for civilians like...two times? They get some people off a bus and Cap tells some police officers to do their jobs, because apparently emergency workers have never been trained in the art of evacuating people. I guess ultimately my biggest problem with it, is that it feels so dishonest. Sanitized and squeaky clean, despite the fact that it clearly involved a death toll as large as Man of Steel's, but unlike Whedon, Goyer never shies away from the fact that it was a tragedy. Superman cries not only at the death of the Zod, but his failure to save everyone the way Jor-El knew he could. Tony thinks everyone should go out for schwarma. That displays a hell of a lot more disregard and apathy to the destruction than Kal ever did.

Meanwhile, I sneakily re-watched the final fight in Man of Steel and guess what? Superman doesn't punch Zod through any buildings. Not one. He does smash his face into some glass windows and knock him through a few construction girders, though. What an evil bastard."

Anyone arguing that the Avengers were pure heroes who caused no destruction or death is a goddamn liar. And yet people only ever complain about MoS when the Avengers cause just as much damage as Supes does and are equally as reckless as him.

Originally posted by janus77
So, you fell asleep during the finale? Understandable.

Padme Forster saved the universe.

Thor was also instrumental. Be fair now.

Originally posted by Nephthys
To quote myself:

"It's actually pretty funny, I sat down to rewatch the climax of Avengers in comparison to Man of Steel to see just what about it was more heroic and satisfying to more discerning fans.

In no particular order; the following happens:

-The first Leviathan they destroy ends up exploding into a million chunks, it's corpse raining down upon a crowd of bystanders who run away in terror as it destroys a few cars.

-Hulk rampages through a crowded office building, jumps out the window onto another Leviathan, and then redirects BACK into the same office building. I can only imagine how many people were injured by shattered glass as Hulk jumps from building to building.

-Tony leads dozens of mooks and a Leviathan throughout the streets, as they explode Star Wars style into buildings and into the streets. This is despite Tony saying several times that they need to keep off the streets.

-Thor and Hulk double team another one of those stupid Leviathans, killing it and hurling its corpse down into what I can only assume is Grand Central. Once again a crowd of bystanders scream in terror as they desperately try and get away. Also worth noting that these stations were where Cap told one of the officers to start redirecting civilians to, in order to get them out of the way. Guess Thor and Hulk didn't get the memo.

It's true that the Avengers do show concern for civilians like...two times? They get some people off a bus and Cap tells some police officers to do their jobs, because apparently emergency workers have never been trained in the art of evacuating people. I guess ultimately my biggest problem with it, is that it feels so dishonest. Sanitized and squeaky clean, despite the fact that it clearly involved a death toll as large as Man of Steel's, but unlike Whedon, Goyer never shies away from the fact that it was a tragedy. Superman cries not only at the death of the Zod, but his failure to save everyone the way Jor-El knew he could. Tony thinks everyone should go out for schwarma. That displays a hell of a lot more disregard and apathy to the destruction than Kal ever did.

Meanwhile, I sneakily re-watched the final fight in Man of Steel and guess what? Superman doesn't punch Zod through any buildings. Not one. He does smash his face into some glass windows and knock him through a few construction girders, though. What an evil bastard."

Anyone arguing that the Avengers were pure heroes who caused no destruction or death is a goddamn liar. And yet people only ever complain about MoS when the Avengers cause just as much damage as Supes does and are equally as reckless as him.

I don't even know why this is an issue. Marvel heroes do kill, and they don't shy away from it when it needs to be done. Ironman killed like a dozen terrorist in cold blood when they were holding people hostage. Captain America shot down and even knifed hydra soldiers. No need to even mention Thor and Hulk.

DC heroes on the other hand like to play dark and gritty and all, but they shy away from killing. They have this notion that they can be vigilantes and save mankind from crazy and sometimes superpowered villains without killing.

Personally, that's why I prefer Marvel heroes. Just more badass all around.