Delta1938
True King of House of El
Originally posted by JBL
Then superman must not be much. There is no way around it. NONE of them are powerful or strong enough to destroy a planet. That's their own Company view. Gladiator can and HAS. He is strong enough and powerful enough. Orion ( and others ) by DC's own admission is below gladiator. Orion cannot beat Gladiator. Even though it was a cross-over, Surfer raped Orion on-panel.http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/2/28811/716701-000001.jpg
Now look at what happened when glads and surfer fought. Cross-overs do give a general idea. 😮💨
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/48945/903628-gladiatorvssilversurfer2.jpg
That is a horrid showing for Orion, considering that Orion got things up close and this comic, whether it's canon or not, takes place before FANTASTIC FOUR #48, and in that comic Surfer got one-shot by Thing(albeit a sucker punch). But do you REALLY want to bring that comic up? You know what else happened there? Surfer was getting owned by Parademons.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Comparing/Darkseid/Silver%20Surfer/Parademons
Surfer also got owned by Desaad grabbing Random Gadget #978. Orion typically does better against Parademons. Hell, a powerless and amnesic Superman has done better against Parademons.
And that Gladiator/Surfer fight? Isn't that from MARVEL ADVENTURES? If so, non-canon.
And I'm done making you sweat on your painting yourself into a corner. You keep arguing Orion isn't that strong because you think Superman isn't that strong. Your argument is from ignorance. You claim DC has "admitted" that their characters are less powerful. No, they did not.
You keep thinking Superman can't destroy a planet, but he destroyed what had to be a planet-sized asteroid with one shot, and during the FOR TOMORROW storyline, Superman and Zod destroyed the planet they were on in the course of their fight, through their "connection" to the planet. Every time one of them hit each other, it was destroying the planet. So, Superman has destroyed a planet sized object, and a planet(albeit shared). But those aren't even Superman's better examples.
Personally, I think Superman helping to move a recreated Krypton in RETURN TO KRYPTON is more impressive than destroying a planet of I believe unknown size, taking context into consideration, but that's me. I also think Superman walking through Kyle's "id" construct's blast is more impressive than planet busting, considering what Kyle has done. But Superman holding a solar system busting miniature black hole in his hands? Definitely more impressive than planet busting. Unless the planet is New Genesis or Apokolips.
So, Superman has planet busting and equivalent feats, and greater than planet-busting. And Orion has gone toe-to-toe with him more than once, including one fight where it kept talking about them being "too evenly matched" and stuff like that.
And still, you failed to answer the question of what has Eternity done, strength-wise, to say he's stronger than Aquaman. I'm going to guess that's because Eternity has no feats of strength, and you keep dodging it because answering the question means your only argument falls apart. Which.....wasn't even valid in the first place!!
