If that stuff is equalized then Goku FTW.
Goku has better MMA, and H2h, and supermans only energy attack is his lazers and SSJG can absorb energy. Superman is also still weak to magic and Goku's Powerpole is magic and unbreakable. Superman is not really a tactician or even a strategist however Goku is he kicks supermans ass.
Originally posted by I am VegetaAgree 100% with that stuff equalized and having to rely on other abilities goku wipes the floor with him Superman has no chance. Superman soloy relies on the stuff equalized and not on his other abilities Goku relies on everything because he always fight people who are Stronger, durable, and faster than him.
If that stuff is equalized then Goku FTW.Goku has better MMA, and H2h, and supermans only energy attack is his lazers and SSJG can absorb energy. Superman is also still weak to magic and Goku's Powerpole is magic and unbreakable. Superman is not really a tactician or even a strategist however Goku is he kicks supermans ass.
Originally posted by I am Vegeta
Because In 80% of his fights he goes in swinging not even getting a second thought he only decides to make a plan is after his enemy kicks his back and after sometime he finally comes up with a plan that lots of times fails.
That's not true.
Superman, even when he brawls, is a thinking man's brawler. Always has been. Even pre-reboot, he would calculate the angle of his actual punches to have the maximum affect.
When he gets really creative, he wins more often than not.
Originally posted by Ferret Fiend
Ok that's just fighting smarts, he dosent trick his opponent, dosent get them off guard and dosent have the abilities like Goku. Supes is a strategist but not as good as goku who is also better at tactics.
Superman has done ALL of that against his enemies. He's tricked, fooled and manipulated enemies more than once in the past.
I'm not even saying he does it better than Goku. I'm just saying that he does it, and to say that he doesn't is incorrect.
Originally posted by -Pr-Agreed hes not better than Goku and Goku still smacks the shit out of him. And also lets look at it like this.
Superman has done ALL of that against his enemies. He's tricked, fooled and manipulated enemies more than once in the past.I'm not even saying he does it better than Goku. I'm just saying that he does it, and to say that he doesn't is incorrect.
H2h, MMA- Edge Goku
Energy Projectiles- Edge Goku and superman's heat vision would be absorbed
Willpower- Tie both never give up except supes a few times but always came back
Strategy, Tactics- Edge Goku
Movement speed- Even though their speed is equal you must remember instant transmission which is a special ability
And there is so much more that Goku can do that supes can't
These three go to school together and do this kind of nonsense all day, Pr, you'll be hard pressed to get them to be reasonable.
As for the thread, by equalizing their physical stats you've finally given Goku a chance to beat Superman... By making him as powerful as Superman.
And the best 'strategy' Goku has ever come up with was the IT Kamehameha. Woo.
Are their stats equalized to Goku's level or Superman's? This is important.
Originally posted by I am VegetaHes got a point and speaking of BM where is he I thought he would have been first to argue with PR
Uh I am 16 dumbass Ferret and BM go to school together and their in college Im still in High school I don't even know them I don't even think we are in same state what makes you think that I go to school with them when Im in high school and their in colledge
I don't claim to know that much about Goku; I just dislike people saying things about Superman that aren't true (if you've ever met carver, you know what I mean).
When has Superman ever given up?
Heat vision is force AND heat. Goku can absorb it?
Goku is that good a tactician? Really?
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
These three go to school together and do this kind of nonsense all day, Pr, you'll be hard pressed to get them to be reasonable.As for the thread, by equalizing their physical stats you've finally given Goku a chance to beat Superman... By making him as powerful as Superman.
And the best 'strategy' Goku has ever come up with was the IT Kamehameha. Woo.
Are their stats equalized to Goku's level or Superman's? This is important.
Ah, I see.
1 he clearly absorbed energy from Bills either that or he relocated it but it dissapeared somewhere
2 Goku is an Excellent strategist outsmarting Freeza the plan with his son and Cell Goku always has ways to outsmart his opponent if you did not know that PR.
3 we dont go to same school BM and I do cause I doubt a 16 is in college
4 Goku has many abilities that would put superman down and even if he couldn't absorb supes heat vision I doubt it would kill or even touch Goku.
5 MA beats full out swinging Supes has little MA training while Goku has been training all his life
6 Supes is a stratigest but not as good as Goku
7 With giving up supes at one time lost all hope and left to the moon just because Lois didn't believe in him at one time but he came back still kicking ass
8 Goku has more advantages as of right now heck and if he where to blow up the sun supes power would start to decrease not instantly but it will.