Superman at best vs SSJG Goku (Might want to read Stips)

Started by Zack Fair5 pages

Anyone who can blow up a planet is a threat to the universe lol.

Must we bring up the scale from planets to stars again?

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Anyone who can blow up a planet is a threat to the universe lol.
No buu destroyed the planet however he could destroy the solar system if he wanted but its funny how Namek which was 10 to 11x bigger than Earth also
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-530111-dbz-more-powerful-than-you-think.html

This kid did a good job except for the King Kai planet size and the fact with the moon is not 1/80 mass of Earth

Originally posted by Ferret Fiend
So you think that everyone in DBZ is just a planet buster LOL you are basically saying they never got any stronger Cell not in one blast but could destroy the solar system and buu was a threat to the universe not in one blast but has the ability to destroy it. Janemba was a dimension buster who was killed By a SSJ3 Goku and if you only think they are planet busters you are pure retard

Prove Cell is a solar system buster.

Don't try to put words in my mouth.

Buu could IT around and blow up planets. It would have taken him so long to destroy the universe that he's basically a moot point.

Janemba is also not canon, so grats.

Keep calling me a retard and not proving your points.

Originally posted by Ferret Fiend
No buu destroyed the planet however he could destroy the solar system if he wanted
Prove it.

I can sit back and make wild claims about Superman wiping out the solar system if I wanted and I would have a better case than you.

So you guys really think they can only blow up planets wow there is also this

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...-you-think.html

This kid did a good job except for the King Kai planet size and the fact with the moon is not 1/80 mass of Earth

Thats not what we're saying.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Thats not what we're saying.
Then what are you saying that he cannot what so ever blow up the sun and only planets is what yall are making it and yall dont even think bills can blow up the sun either which is also false

There is a large gap between blowing up a planet and blowing up a star. The fact no character in DBZ/GT/Movies has ever blown up a star(if I recall correctly) makes your assumption weak IMHO.

In GT though not canon but you brought it up Kid Goku blew up a dimension Dimension > Sun. And why do people say the movies are not canon can someone explain this and also why isnt GT canon never understood why.
Also on our thread to place non comic characters at metas and heralds and stuff Bills was being voted at trans which if I'm correct is above Solar System so yeah pretty sure bills can destroy a solar system

Originally posted by Ferret Fiend
In GT though not canon but you brought it up Kid Goku blew up a dimension Dimension > Sun. And why do people say the movies are not canon can someone explain this and also why isnt GT canon never understood why.
Also on our thread to place non comic characters at metas and heralds and stuff Bills was being voted at trans which if I'm correct is above Solar System so yeah pretty sure bills can destroy a solar system
Some dimensions are smaller than this one, but I'll give Goku that.

The movies and GT are not canon because they weren't written by Toriyama and they contradict actual canon. Although there are some movies that might be canon if I'm not mistaken.

But what made movies non-canon was it ever stated or something

Also Toriyama did make most of the movies so if thats the case then a lot of powerful mofo's like Broly are canon seeing how he was made by Toriyama

I'm not really an expert on the whole canocity thing, but I'll direct you to Galan007 who deals with this stuff on a regular basis.

Cool. An equalized fight. Like Paste asked though, equalized to Superman or to Goku?

Goku's brilliance as a fighter more comes from being able to learn techniques that he sees very quickly.

His tactics have never been anything special. DBZ is a fairly simple show afterall.

Superman is far more intelligent and tactical.

Goku uses far more kicks than Superman does. Superman on the other hand knows more styles than Goku does and has more versatile abilities.

Goku's blasts will have far more AOE, but Superman's HV is unrivaled in pure heat and precision. If its equalized to Superman, then Goku will withstand the HV more easily (though it can still go through him, HV can go through other Kryptonians), if its equalized to Goku, than the heat alone should cause him immense problems.

At kicking range, I see Goku getting the better of Superman. At punching/clinching range I see Superman getting the better of Goku
as he has a more complete game there. Goku arguably uses his style better along with flight than Superman does, but its arguable. In a pure kickboxing match I'd say its 50/50, maybe edge to Goku, at least in terms of hits landed vs hits taken.

At blast range I see Goku delivering a lot more volleys/hits, but Superman having the better accuracy with his HV, and maybe disabling some of Goku's muscles with his HV/X-ray/Supervision etc.

Superman still does have T-Vo if he wants to get exotic, and he has better stamina due to the sun's rays/ built up reserves, and that grants him a good healing factor as well, which Goku has none of.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I'm not really an expert on the whole canocity thing, but I'll direct you to Galan007 who deals with this stuff on a regular basis.
Not sure who that is but Ok

If anyone can show me that scan of Superman giving up, I'd appreciate seeing it, please.

Originally posted by Ferret Fiend
Janemba was a dimension buster who was killed By a SSJ3 Goku
Janemba never destroyed a dimension, nor was he killed by SSJ3 Goku.

Originally posted by -Pr-
If anyone can show me that scan of Superman giving up, I'd appreciate seeing it, please.

Gotta give them time to draw it first.