Darth Krayt vs Jaden Korr

Originally posted by Q99
So Jaden took it out when it was weak and did so indirectly. All the more example of the difference.

Krayt took out Abeloth while she was much stronger than Mother, by tag-teaming with Luke and handling things face to face.

Mother's raw force abilities are actually on the same level or beyond Abeloth's, she's just not as cunning or as mobile as the Abeloth entity. It's actually easier to duel Abeloth than Mother, given how they use their gifts.

Originally posted by Q99
Second most successful Sith in terms of making oneself galactic empire.

His Empire is a joke, which is why it will not survive future retcons.

Originally posted by Q99
Your standards are dumb 🙂

Actually my standards are based on the guiding principles that inspired the Jedi and SW in the first place, these fights are fights Krayt loses, because he doesn't understand the depth of a life. He
has no concept it would seem, of the higher Jedi principles.

Originally posted by Q99
Korr's never sparred with anyone like Muur, or Wyyrlok 🙂 And just a reminder, that was Krayt facing all of them, not separately.

They're about the same level as those for whom he has...So😕

Originally posted by Q99

I'm not sure why you think 'backwards' matters, but Krayt's much more modern than Jaden, who's from many years before.

Actually Krayt is older than Anakin Skywalker, and should have died a long time ago or done something to help with the growing no.
of crisis, he's basically a wannabe Emperor - doesn't have the
wisdom for the position and shouldn't even bother, get in line
or step down - The Jedi are done with his fake outrage.

Originally posted by Q99
What are you talk about? It doesn't take over his higher functions. If he stopped struggling against it, it'd do so, but it's (obviously) never succeeded in doing so or that'd be it, no more Krayt.

That's exactly what he would want if he was sane, no more Krayt!

He'd actually have the chance to become cooler and more powerful actually.

Originally posted by Q99
So long story short, Krayt's a more up-to-date force user than Jaden who's taken on stronger foes, more foes, has a larger arsenal, is more experienced, and even had one of his agents have Jaden killed once.

Having Jaden's body killed means that he is a bit of murderer and considering Jaden had only brought robes and blade to the fight against several force wielding adepts, it's not a surprise that the assassination marathon got to him.

What it means is that Krayt's Sith got lucky once, and blew their opportunity anyway. They were given a shot to rule, and didn't know how to, let the Jedi do their work - let the professionals do
their job.

Originally posted by Q99
So Jaden took it out when it was weak and did so indirectly. All the more example of the difference.

Krayt took out Abeloth while she was much stronger than Mother, by tag-teaming with Luke and handling things face to face.

Second most successful Sith in terms of making oneself galactic empire.

Your standards are dumb 🙂

Korr's never sparred with anyone like Muur, or Wyyrlok 🙂 And just a reminder, that was Krayt facing all of them, not separately.

Then Jaden Korr must be really backwards, because Krayt is up to date on techniques of his era and later.

I'm not sure why you think 'backwards' matters, but Krayt's much more modern than Jaden, who's from many years before.

What are you talk about? It doesn't take over his higher functions. If he stopped struggling against it, it'd do so, but it's (obviously) never succeeded in doing so or that'd be it, no more Krayt.

So long story short, Krayt's a more up-to-date force user than Jaden who's taken on stronger foes, more foes, has a larger arsenal, is more experienced, and even had one of his agents have Jaden killed once.

The clone of Jaden died essentially, its identity was erased by Kor's memories and consciousness and its life essence became fused with Kor's older spirit.

It was a non-force sensitive One Sith agent who inflicted the telling wounds, actually.

His Empire is a joke, which is why it will not survive future retcons.

His Empire covers most of the galaxy. "Is a joke" seems to equal "you don't like it but don't actually have arguments."

And of course the new movies won't use it- they won't use Thrawn's little attempt either, or Clone Palpatine's, and you can bet the EU sith from the past aren't going to be mentioned. Nothing EU gets carried over. As long as the current EU goes on, though, it's going to stay in and stay one of the most impressive Sith conquests of all time.

He
has no concept it would seem, of the higher Jedi principles.

He's a sith, so duh? Sith lose track of higher Jedi principles. Just like Vader and Revan and Dooku did.

Actually Krayt is older than Anakin Skywalker, and should have died a long time ago or done something to help with the growing no.
of crisis, he's basically a wannabe Emperor - doesn't have the
wisdom for the position and shouldn't even bother, get in line
or step down - The Jedi are done with his fake outrage.

You keep saying 'wannabe'. He was an Emperor. He succeeded in conquering most of the galaxy. One of the most successful in history.

Do you have any argument besides not liking him?

That's exactly what he would want if he was sane, no more Krayt!

He'd actually have the chance to become cooler and more powerful actually.

Not without learning self-revival first... which he did do, at which point he did revive (but he would've increased in power even without the revival, learning the techniques was key).

You don't seem to know much about the character or how 'death' works.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Battle takes place on a republic flagship, who wins?

1. Sabers

2. Blasters

3. Hand-to-Hand

4. Vibrosword

5. Force

6. All-Out

07. Fists

08. Kicks

09. Pillows

10. Sticks

11. Farts

Originally posted by Allankles
Mother's raw force abilities are actually on the same level or beyond Abeloth's, she's just not as cunning or as mobile as the Abeloth entity. It's actually easier to duel Abeloth than Mother, given how they use their gifts.

His Empire is a joke, which is why it will not survive future retcons.

Actually my standards are based on the guiding principles that inspired the Jedi and SW in the first place, these fights are fights Krayt loses, because he doesn't understand the depth of a life. He
has no concept it would seem, of the higher Jedi principles.

They're about the same level as those for whom he has...So😕

Actually Krayt is older than Anakin Skywalker, and should have died a long time ago or done something to help with the growing no.
of crisis, he's basically a wannabe Emperor - doesn't have the
wisdom for the position and shouldn't even bother, get in line
or step down - The Jedi are done with his fake outrage.

That's exactly what he would want if he was sane, no more Krayt!

He'd actually have the chance to become cooler and more powerful actually.

Having Jaden's body killed means that he is a bit of murderer and considering Jaden had only brought robes and blade to the fight against several force wielding adepts, it's not a surprise that the assassination marathon got to him.

What it means is that Krayt's Sith got lucky once, and blew their opportunity anyway. They were given a shot to rule, and didn't know how to, let the Jedi do their work - let the professionals do
their job.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
No Rakatan is on Abeloth's level.
The Ones are the GOD'S of the star wars universe, The Father himself is the second strongest force-user that ever existed, first would've been full-potential Anakin.

Yes. No mere old creature is going to be on a level of a cosmic entity tied to the balance of the force.

Centerpoint Station and the Maw- a shell of black holes- was made to contain her.

Mother was just on a much smaller scale all around.

How is this even a debate? Krayt wouldn't even need a stick to take down Korr. Krayt's force abilities defeat Korr totally, alone. Don't even start with lightsabers.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
No Rakatan is on Abeloth's level.
The Ones are the GOD'S of the star wars universe, The Father himself is the second strongest force-user that ever existed, first would've been full-potential Anakin.

She's not a Rakatan, but a force entity trapped in a Rakatan station for millenia, gathering force energy from the dark side, and siphoning energy and intelligence galaxy wide by sifting the dreams and thoughts of sentient life in the galaxy.

So powerwise, she was on the same scale as Abeloth, but was actually more primordial in her thinking, making her a smaller threat than Abeloth.

Originally posted by Q99
Yes. No mere old creature is going to be on a level of a cosmic entity tied to the balance of the force.

Centerpoint Station and the Maw- a shell of black holes- was made to contain her.

Mother was just on a much smaller scale all around.

Mother was trapped by the Rakatan similarly, since the Rakatan's were different from the Ones, and actually overthrew the Ones as top dogs when they got their numbers up in the Infinite Empire.

So the Rakatan's force based tech is a match for One tech, since both are ancient races of celestials - one older, the other younger (Rakatans were a second born race, more physically tied).

Originally posted by Q99
It was a non-force sensitive One Sith agent who inflicted the telling wounds, actually.

His Empire covers most of the galaxy. "Is a joke" seems to equal "you don't like it but don't actually have arguments."

And of course the new movies won't use it- they won't use Thrawn's little attempt either, or Clone Palpatine's, and you can bet the EU sith from the past aren't going to be mentioned. Nothing EU gets carried over. As long as the current EU goes on, though, it's going to stay in and stay one of the most impressive Sith conquests of all time.

He's a sith, so duh? Sith lose track of higher Jedi principles. Just like Vader and Revan and Dooku did.

You keep saying 'wannabe'. He was an Emperor. He succeeded in conquering most of the galaxy. One of the most successful in history.

Do you have any argument besides not liking him?

Not without learning self-revival first... which he did do, at which point he did revive (but he would've increased in power even without the revival, learning the techniques was key).

You don't seem to know much about the character or how 'death' works.

His so-called-Empire is a joke, it's culture, structure and purpose are a joke - vis-a-vis, retarded.

He's just a new school Darth Bane, big, strong, fast but ultimately shallow and thus a failure.

Originally posted by Q99
It was a non-force sensitive One Sith agent who inflicted the telling wounds, actually.

Eeh! Nyss Nenn is actually force sensitive. 🙄

He's just a new school Darth Bane, big, strong, fast but ultimately shallow and thus a failure.

'Cept for leading an order for a century and the galaxy for a decade in what is a giant success in the history of the sith.

I mean, do you consider every Sith less successful than Krayt a failure? Because that's a very, very long list.

His so-called-Empire is a joke, it's culture, structure and purpose are a joke - vis-a-vis, retarded.

Yea, you're just repeating 'joke' without being able to back it up with squat. Which, ironically, makes you a joke.

Originally posted by Allankles
Eeh! Nyss Nenn is actually force sensitive. 🙄

Not according to wookiepedia, they just had their species' natural abilities.

Jaden hasn't dueled anyone of note in lightsaber combat. Krayt owns him.

Originally posted by Q99
'Cept for leading an order for a century and the galaxy for a decade in what is a giant success in the history of the sith.

I mean, do you consider every Sith less successful than Krayt a failure? Because that's a very, very long list.

Yea, you're just repeating 'joke' without being able to back it up with squat. Which, ironically, makes you a joke.

Not according to wookiepedia, they just had their species' natural abilities.

His Sith are a joke and lack vision.
His vision is a travesty, his motivations are phony, and he's about to become irrelevant.

In a war with the Jedi and in a battle with Kor, he'd lose
because unlike Marka Ragnos he doesn't have even a scrap of the moral law to back him up, but the Jedi do and all of it.

So no, Krayt refused to respect the Return of the Jedi, and will fall!

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Jaden hasn't dueled anyone of note in lightsaber combat. Krayt owns him.

Sceptre wielding Tavion, Alora, Sith Spirit of Marka Ragnos, plenty of Jedi in sparring at the academy, One Sith agents,...

Krayt's really just a follower compared to Jaden as a duelist, Kor is actually also more inventive.

Originally posted by Allankles
Sceptre wielding Tavion, Alora, Sith Spirit of Marka Ragnos, plenty of Jedi in sparring at the academy, One Sith agents,...

Krayt's really just a follower compared to Jaden as a duelist, Kor is actually also more inventive.

Dude. Just stop. Krayt stomps Jaden. There is no way he wins against Krayt. Krayt is far beyond his league, no matter what you think.

Kor's skills with a lightsaber are demonstratably better than Krayt
it is Krayt who has never been shown to be anything special beyond
"above average", Kor is the legend here by demonstrated evidence.

So Krayt needs to step up, but since he doesn't even know the the principles of the Art of War, what do you expect.

Kor by KO, via shockboxing and ataru.

Krayt has shown better feats with a saber than Jaden ever has.

Krayt has better showings with the Force.

Korr isn't a legend. He's an above average Jedi in a time of legends, like Luke, Katarn and Jacen/Jaina. He's not that good!

The Art of War has nothing to do with this. I've read it, has Jaden? I don't think he has. Unless, you know, China exists in a galaxy far, far away.

Stop blowing Jaden and get over being his fanboy. Jaden gets stomped.

Krayt doesn't know squat - and Jaden is actually the preeminent fighter of his generations Jedi, not some follower.