..... The Hulk Vs Thor .......

Also the issue of versatility is overplayed. It only really matters when you're dealing with characters in the same or similar tier durability, stamina and strength-wise.

Hulk is atleast as mobile as Thor, when it comes to combat. People discount Surfer's extreme FTL speed as "travel speed" and pretend that he would be blitzed by Superman, when it comes to hand to hand, yet (mostly the same people) seem to take it for granted that Thor's travel speed is somehow indicative of his ability to dodge and parry.

Hulk never had a problem matching up with FTL speed combatants and he's tagged enough of them throughout his history to make it obvious that his reaction speeds and reflexes are more than adequate to take on Thor.

On top of that, he has the far superior durability, stamina (comes with the HF), HF and strength. Allied to these "stats" is the fact that currently he is also utilising his Banner intellect, giving him a decided advantage in cunning, adaptive tactics and in-fight analysis of his opponent.

Originally posted by janus77
Wasn't the Thor that fought Prof. Hulk in the Arctic, going all out? Prof. Hulk had little problem handling him.

They had that big back and forth in the 2001 annual, Hulk was beating the Avengers including Thor and Atlas in AoA before being calmed down, he defeated Thor and the Wrecking Crew in LTBB, looked overall more impressive in Avengers Assemble and one shotted him twice more recently. Then there's Paks era in which he clearly was more powerful than any of his former peers.

Factoring in other mediums; Hulk had the upperhand in their fight during the movie, he defeated all of Asgard (bar Odin) in Hulk vs Thor, and consistently comes across as more impressive than Thor when the two are on screen together in the animated shows from what I've seen. I do think that across the board, Hulk/Banner are being somewhat pushed as THE guy in the MU but without making him unbeatable or shoving him down peoples throats (yet).

On the other hand Thor has his own lane, he's more heroic, and is usually the go-to guy for cosmic threats. He has a better rogues gallery than Hulk and a more impressive list of accomplishments in terms of who he has defeated.
Thor's lightning is probably his most effective attack and seems to hurt Hulk considerably more than his physical assaults. If CIS was off for the Odinson he would take any Hulk besides upper end Green Scar/WBH imo.

Just my 2 cents.

Thor SHOULD win. However, what actually happens in comics is usually different. It seems like in direct confrontations, Hulk wins, even if he really shouldn't.

Originally posted by janus77
[B]Also the issue of versatility is overplayed. It only really matters when you're dealing with characters in the same or similar tier durability, stamina and strength-wise.

No its not.

Thor can just teleport Hulk away, and he cant do nothing against it. PIS is being underestimated here.

Thor can fly and summon storms (Hulk alredy was Koed by a single thunderbolt from Thor).

Thor can send Mjolnir auto attack Hulk with FTL speed, etc.

But he dont do any of those things in comics for one reasons: if he do that, there is no fight against Thor and Hulk. Without PIS, this is not a fair fight.

He wasn't ko'd iirc he was bfr'd, Thor himself passed out afterwards so I'm not sure what this sentence is supposed to mean. It isn't really indicative of how a fight between them would play out.

Thor passed out because he was weakened. But this fight also show how Thor can BFR Hulk even without his mjolnir powers.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
It has debated defore it was clear he was koed and was coming to as hi was in orbit and falling back to earth, Yes thats right it would play out the same Thor would pass out after a fight with Hulk, when just prior to the fight he fought a small army and a skyfather then gets teleported directly into a fight with amped Hulk and amped Thing.

Carver as for you you already know when it was when Hulk was 1 of the worthy

However you claim it was not WWH but your own creation family man Hulk

Lol...he wasnt koed. Hell, when Thor hit him into space away from Earth, he did a complete u-turn which sent him back to earth (did this via the hammer). Nothing indicates or proves he was koed.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Yeah, and against the Mindless Hulk back in Hulk #300.

They had that big back and forth in the 2001 annual, Hulk was beating the Avengers including Thor and Atlas in AoA before being calmed down, he defeated Thor and the Wrecking Crew in LTBB, looked overall more impressive in Avengers Assemble and one shotted him twice more recently. Then there's Paks era in which he clearly was more powerful than any of his former peers.

Factoring in other mediums; Hulk had the upperhand in their fight during the movie, he defeated all of Asgard (bar Odin) in Hulk vs Thor, and consistently comes across as more impressive than Thor when the two are on screen together in the animated shows from what I've seen. I do think that across the board, Hulk/Banner are being somewhat pushed as THE guy in the MU but without making him unbeatable or shoving him down peoples throats (yet).

On the other hand Thor has his own lane, he's more heroic, and is usually the go-to guy for cosmic threats. He has a better rogues gallery than Hulk and a more impressive list of accomplishments in terms of who he has defeated.
Thor's lightning is probably his most effective attack and seems to hurt Hulk considerably more than his physical assaults. If CIS was off for the Odinson he would take any Hulk besides upper end Green Scar/WBH imo.

Just my 2 cents.

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I agree with this. With CIS off for Thor, nothing short of Odin is stopping him.

Originally posted by carver9
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I agree with this. With CIS off for Thor, nothing short of Odin is stopping him.

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The implications are disturbing.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Amongst who? Thor fans? I seem to remember he was still holding onto his hammer after the blast which indicates he wasn't out. Looking at it from your pov lets say he was briefly ko'd, in the context of that fight it wouldn't have made a difference because Nul was awake and no worse for wear when he landed. He could have returned to the fight, and would have found a near-dead Thor on the ground. This was also a completely bloodlusted Thor, and written by Fraction who essentially wrote him on steroids most of the time.

Hulk is the stronger and tougher of the two, but Odinson has Mjolnir which is an equalizer in most situations. If Thor doesn't approach this fight with a bloodlusted mentality from the outset and fight smart, he's going to find it very hard to keep Hulk down.

Unless you are trying to claim that amped Hulk which was stated on-panel to be more pwoerful then his wwh version is less powerful then current hulk??

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...he wasnt koed. Hell, when Thor hit him into space away from Earth, he did a complete u-turn which sent him back to earth (did this via the hammer). Nothing indicates or proves he was koed.

Hulk sends Long hair crying to His Papi