Iron man vs Superman

Originally posted by DrDeadpool
No he doesn't

Tony shouldn't beat superman even with prep because his buster suits have a high rate of failure in their main goal. Superman also has way too many powers and advantages across the board.

Also, why would some assume that he has access to kryptonite just because he's in a fight with superman? Not sure it works that way guys.

1st round- superman and its spite
2nd round- still supes but not near spite

Tony CAN win with prep, but I don't think he is favored.

Originally posted by Drakon09
1st round- superman and its spite
2nd round- still supes but not near spite

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Originally posted by Tony Stark
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Originally posted by Drakon09
Deal with it.

Tony has beaten better; much better... Deal with it.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
Tony has beaten better; much better... Deal with it.

So has superman. And who has he beaten thats better than supes Recently?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Phoenix buster failed.

Hulkbuster failed.

Thorbuster failed.

Cause he has failed a lot

Originally posted by Tony Stark
Tony has beaten better; much better... Deal with it.

Tony has lost to worst.

Originally posted by Drakon09
So has superman. And who has he beaten thats better than supes Recently?

Cause he has failed a lot

That's easy enough... For starters DOOM, SS, HULK

Originally posted by Drakon09
Tony has lost to worst.

So has Superman

Super squashes doom, trumps hulk, but surfer is on his level ill give him that but if PIS is your game then you got no room to talk.

I haven't read enough DCnU to be able to offer up my opinion. Pre-Flashpoint Superman's issues with red sunlight and kryptonite as well as being powered by sunlight were common knowledge on DC Earth (placed in Supes' storyline that he did an interview with for the Daily Planet and gave up the goods on himself as a sign of good faith) which per forum rule would be info Ironman would have. I don't think that information was made public in the new continuity so all Tony would know is that he's fast, strong, has eyebeams, etc. With that info Tony's not beating DCnU Supes, and even with the info he'd be hard pressed to beat Pre-Flashpoint Supes, though I could definitely see him outfitting an armor with red sunlight emitters and altering his unibeams and repulsors to have a red solar signature. He's not synthesizing kryptonite or anything like that. Red sunlight's probably his only avenue of attack.

1. Superman each and every time. Iron Man could hurt/annoy him but he just doesn't pack enough punch to knock Kal out.

2. If only Tony has prep I can see him winning in this scenario.

Superman's prep would probably consist of sitting in the sun for a few hours and then bulldozing Tony out the gate at a multiple of C.

And it would certainly work.

Yeah, I don't see Iron Man winning unless his prep includes a full consult from Batman.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
So is no one gonna acknowledge the fact that that his "Buster" suits were meant to fight beings on a higher than Herald level?

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
So is no one gonna acknowledge the fact that that his "Buster" suits were meant to fight beings on a higher than Herald level?

Like a non-WWH?

The 1st Hulkbuster came out in 1994. Hulk wasn't higher than herald back then. Plus, it was only rated at 175 tons.

You go up against the Hulk....and only create a suit that can lift 175 tons? Hardly the best prep.

So yeah, no one needs to acknowledge anything.

Also, he has an Ant-buster:

Hardly a trans level character.

His Buster suits have a terrible success ratio though. Tony, for all his brilliance and versatility when in his normal suit, seems to equate bruiser strength to being "buster level" which makes no sense to me.

He'd have a much better chance of success if he exploits weaknesses rather than try to match someone more powerful head to head.