Originally posted by pym-ftw
Little salty? I never said he couldn't, I just said he didn't in that scene.
BTW I'm not team Thor, its just most of the real team Thor have disappeared.
Originally posted by Raisen
what about thor without the aid of his weapon\mjolnir.maybe we should give surfer an enchanted hammer and give him time to learn how it works.
since when is the aid of weapons fair when the other combatant doesn't have one?
still.....surfer wins
😐
Okay, lets take away Mjolnir, Surfer's Power Cosmic, and Sentry's serum and see who wins.
I'd take the God of Thunder over the astronomy nerd and junkie.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😐Okay, lets take away Mjolnir, Surfer's Power Cosmic, and Sentry's serum and see who wins.
I'd take the God of Thunder over the astronomy nerd and junkie.
the power cosmic is within surfer.
mjolnir is a removable object
you know the difference rage. thor needs help and that's why his daddy gave him a toy to use.
Originally posted by zopzop
Thor pulled a soul from a fellow Asgarian, ONCE (correct me if I'm wrong here). Surfer has played with people's souls (binding them and all) on multiple occasions. Surfer wins.
Why do you say fellow Asgardian like it's a bad thing? Immortals have powerful spirits generally, especially one such as Loki. 😬
Not the only example of soul manipulation.
Thor has even used lightning to infuse the demon Darkoth with the essence of light, overpowering the corrupted touch Mephisto placed on his soul after defeating the beams emanating from Darkoth's fire horns.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDarkoth6.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDarkoth7.jpg
Disperses numerous souls stolen by Malekith back to their bodies.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ControlsSouls.jpg
Summons the spirit of Captain America from the dead. At that time at least.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/BringsBackCaptainAmerica1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/BringsBackCaptainAmerica2.jpg
Uses Mjolnir to draw out and eradicate Loki's Godly Life Force utilizing a process that causes the very fabric of infinity shudder.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsLoki73.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsLoki74.jpg
Originally posted by zopzop
Examples of "spells" Thor has cast?
That depends on what you mean. We've seen him cast a spell of memory loss:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ErasesMemory.jpg
And if we count Mjolnir, there's a bunch of stuff like this:
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/ReversesEnchantment1.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/ReversesEnchantment2.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/R-O-O/Thor/ReversesEnchantment3.jpg
Basically him canceling enchantments and stuff. Then there's miscellaneous things he has done such as when he imbued his armor with mystical runes of protection (His armor is pretty damn durable):
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/CreatesEnchantedMetal5.jpg
Enchants and creates a link between Mjolnir and the toy of Eric Masterson's son.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/CreatesLinkWithToy1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/CreatesLinkWithToy2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/CreatesLinkWithToy3.jpg
Originally posted by zopzop
In terms of versatility? Go for it.Surfer's ability to move as he pleases through time SH|TS all over anything Thor could come up with. There's a reason why writers use this ability of his sparingly. This power alone ends the thread because of the sheer amount of uses it has.
Fun fact: Thor had the ability to travel through time at will but it was lost. Most of it anyways, it still had some temporal energy left.
Although since the repairs and rebirth, the hammer should have had the ability restored.
Originally posted by Raisen
the power cosmic is within surfer.mjolnir is a removable object
you know the difference rage. thor needs help and that's why his daddy gave him a toy to use.
The Power Cosmic is an external force that was imbued in him by Galactus, an entity he randomly encountered who he has absolutely no past connection with. And he is directly depended on absorbing the ambient cosmic energy of the Universe. Cut off from it, he can be rendered powerless.
I get what you were trying to say, but that doesn't make it any less stupid. If you want to argue about independence and reliance, simply put, Surfer is far depended on "gifts" of power then Thor.
You want to mock Thor for having a weapon but Surfer rides around on a board with stolen energy? 😬 Smh.
Surfer needs a lot more "help" then Thor. And you might mock his use of Mjolnir, but he worked a lot harder, for a lot longer, to gain the ability to use his weapon.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Little salty? I never said he couldn't, I just said he didn't in that scene.
BTW I'm not team Thor, its just most of the real team Thor have disappeared. I truthfully have no problem with the idea that Surfer implanted a Black hole in him, all I'm saying is that its possible either.A.) Air Walker's death released the PC and it created the singularity
Or
B.) Surfer used the remaining portion of the PC in order to accomplish the task.
A) When has the death of a herald ever created a singularity? We've seen Red Shift, Morg, and Fallen One (all heralds of Galactus) die in Annihilation, yet none of them "released their PC to create a singularity." So why would you assume this of Air-Walker's death?
More importantly, where was it stated or shown that Air-Walker's death released any energy or PC? Where was it stated or shown that it was Air-Walker's energy that created the black hole? There are two on-panel statements that state Surfer was the one who created the singularity.
B) Used the remaining portion of who's PC? Air-Walker's? None of this is supported by any shred of evidence. The black hole was created solely by Surfer's energy discharge, and only Surfer's.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The Power Cosmic is an external force that was imbued in him by Galactus, an entity he randomly encountered who he has absolutely no past connection with. And he is directly depended on absorbing the ambient cosmic energy of the Universe. Cut off from it, he can be rendered powerless.I get what you were trying to say, but that doesn't make it any less stupid. If you want to argue about independence and reliance, simply put, Surfer is far depended on "gifts" of power then Thor.
You want to mock Thor for having a weapon but Surfer rides around on a board with stolen energy? 😬 Smh.
Surfer needs a lot more "help" then Thor. And you might mock his use of Mjolnir, but he worked a lot harder, for a lot longer, to gain the ability to use his weapon.
lil salty bro?
Originally posted by Raisen
lil salty bro?
Originally posted by Raisen
dd is too fast.plus he gets cred for fighting barehanded against a guy with a weapon
Originally posted by Raisen
it's part of his skeletal structure.
mjolnir was created. it can be utilized by other beings.it's the same as me being barehanded and fighting a guy with gun.
some people just need to take the pu$$y way I guess. they just don't have the heart or the skill to stand on their own.
Originally posted by Raisen
IDK. his daddy may be able to save him, but i'm pretty sure the old man is sick of Thor's intergalactic homoerotica experiments
😂 Your butthurt is spreading to other, completely unrelated threads but I'm the one who's upset? Smh, the irony.
Lol alright guys. Im just glad one of my threads made it past a page and everyone actually put some useful input into it. A few questions then. Not sure how to tag people or if you even can.
For Janus: You said Surfer created a being on par with his own power level. How doese he do that if he is working with a percentage of Galactus power? Does he have a continuous feed of said percentage or how doesnit work?
Enzeru:I see Sentry and Void as the same damn being just like bipolar or something akin to it. And im starting to think his powers are almost more magical in nature than anything else. Because super serum just doesent make that much sense and matter manip wouldnt necessarily explain some of the things he does. Would you agree with this?
Everyone. Lets replace Thor with Dr. Strange or Loki or Doom since they actually cast spells more so than Thor does.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=587834&pagenumber=2😂 Your butthurt is spreading to other, completely unrelated threads but I'm the one who's upset? Smh, the irony.
I haven't trolled thor in a long time.
it feels good. it feels real good.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Lol alright guys. Im just glad one of my threads made it past a page and everyone actually put some useful input into it. A few questions then. Not sure how to tag people or if you even can.For Janus: You said Surfer created a being on par with his own power level. How doese he do that if he is working with a percentage of Galactus power? Does he have a continuous feed of said percentage or how doesnit work?
Enzeru:I see Sentry and Void as the same damn being just like bipolar or something akin to it. And im starting to think his powers are almost more magical in nature than anything else. Because super serum just doesent make that much sense and matter manip wouldnt necessarily explain some of the things he does. Would you agree with this?
Everyone. Lets replace Thor with Dr. Strange or Loki or Doom since they actually cast spells more so than Thor does.
Re. The Surfer duplication thing. The Surfer has been stated to have innate PC, but in an alt universe story. In general he stores some reserve of PC, which functions - going by general depiction - like the energy we store in our own bodies. When he does heavy lifting it's generally using that reserve but he always has access to the Power Cosmic (and any other energy for that matter) within the environment.
Only on Sakaar, has he been cut off from the flow of Power Cosmic (which is, iirc, an omniversal fundamental energy in Marvel) and forced exclusively to use his internal reserves.
He created a duplicate of himself, who had access to the same Power Cosmic that he has. This was as part of his stratagem to defeat Mrrungu Mu.
I'm a little hazy about it, but I think he's also created a duplicate on another occasion.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Right? Little late to the party then.
And its my party. What a crappy host I am. Thanks Janus. Who has Galactus given the highest percentage of power to? (Going off topic in my own damn thread. Shame) I remeber he gave The Destroyer like .0000001 percent or something one time.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
And its my party. What a crappy host I am. Thanks Janus. Who has Galactus given the highest percentage of power to? (Going off topic in my own damn thread. Shame) I remeber he gave The Destroyer like .0000001 percent or something one time.
Surfer seems to have the best skill, the widest - most open-ended - powers and generally the most powerful application of Power Cosmic, amongst the heralds. So I'd imagine him having the most "%" of it, even though The Power Cosmic is everywhere in the omniverse and exists separate of and independent of Galactus.
Surfer's definitely the herald most favoured and respected by Galactus. And he's the only herald that has achieved a feat that Galactus himself would have struggled with (in his opinion). That being the channelling of The Crunch energies.
