Batman vs. Iron Man

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
You didn't come with anything, why should I. But let's look at both chars. Tony preps against people and loses. He is good at making tech and nice at prepping but he relys to much on his armor. Batman on the other hand is prepped against anyone in the JLA, he made Brother Eye, prepping against others, even if it's dirty and unfair, is his thing.This is not an "who makes the better or prettier armor" contest, it's an "who will eat dirt in the end" kind of contest and Tony is already used to eat dirt, he will do so again.

you're trying to change the flavor of the battle but have not yet said what exactly Bruce would bring to the table in order to defeat Tony? Is he going to hack Tony? I doubt it, I can see Tony hacking Bruce due to having superior tech, and placing Bruce under a personal panopticon which would allow for him to be tracked, and viewed from all over the city. Bruce wouldn't be able to go anywhere to escape an onslaught of Stark armored drones forcing him into a pocket.

Toe to toe, Ironman kicks Batman's ass, Tony is smarter than Bruce. Tony's armor can take a hit from Fin Fang Foom. Should I believe that Batman can defeat him up close? Tell me how Bruce compromises Tony's servers, and other tech before Tony does this to him. Tony wins this without a doubt, and in more areas than this prep argument that you seem to believe is the ace in the hole for him. Tony isn't some dumb ass like you seem to nearly be alluding to, and if you've read Ironman you would know that he is an excellent prep artist.

Not sure if you recall the beating that he put on Captain America, but his victory is a calculated certainty here.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Tony sends a suit out while he preps for a real challenge.

Spite

Whatever pills you take, keep on going dur

You seem like you could use some pills to help you find the truth...

Originally posted by Stoic
you're trying to change the flavor of the battle but have not yet said what exactly Bruce would bring to the table in order to defeat Tony? Is he going to hack Tony? I doubt it, I can see Tony hacking Bruce due to having superior tech, and placing Bruce under a personal panopticon which would allow for him to be tracked, and viewed from all over the city. Bruce wouldn't be able to go anywhere to escape an onslaught of Stark armored drones forcing him into a pocket.

Toe to toe, Ironman kicks Batman's ass, Tony is smarter than Bruce. Tony's armor can take a hit from Fin Fang Foom. Should I believe that Batman can defeat him up close? Tell me how Bruce compromises Tony's servers, and other tech before Tony does this to him. Tony wins this without a doubt, and in more areas than this prep argument that you seem to believe is the ace in the hole for him. Tony isn't some dumb ass like you seem to nearly be alluding to, and if you've read Ironman you would know that he is an excellent prep artist.

Not sure if you recall the beating that he put on Captain America, but his victory is a calculated certainty here.

Batman may not be able to develop Better tech then Tony but that's not his strength anyways. Batman is perhaps the smartest character in the DC universe in terms of strategy and finding the opponents weaknesses, who's to say he can't do the same to tony.

IM wins, smarter, far superior tech and far more durable too.

Originally posted by janus77
IM wins, smarter, far superior tech and far more durable too.

With prep? Split.

Without? Iron Man, obviously.

Iron man wins

Originally posted by -Pr-
With prep? Split.

Without? Iron Man, obviously.

How is prep going to help Batman against IM?

Originally posted by Stoic
you're trying to change the flavor of the battle but have not yet said what exactly Bruce would bring to the table in order to defeat Tony? Is he going to hack Tony? I doubt it, I can see Tony hacking Bruce due to having superior tech, and placing Bruce under a personal panopticon which would allow for him to be tracked, and viewed from all over the city. Bruce wouldn't be able to go anywhere to escape an onslaught of Stark armored drones forcing him into a pocket.

Toe to toe, Ironman kicks Batman's ass, Tony is smarter than Bruce. Tony's armor can take a hit from Fin Fang Foom. Should I believe that Batman can defeat him up close? Tell me how Bruce compromises Tony's servers, and other tech before Tony does this to him. Tony wins this without a doubt, and in more areas than this prep argument that you seem to believe is the ace in the hole for him. Tony isn't some dumb ass like you seem to nearly be alluding to, and if you've read Ironman you would know that he is an excellent prep artist.

Not sure if you recall the beating that he put on Captain America, but his victory is a calculated certainty here.

Because his possibilities are sheer endless. Hack is a possibility, as much as you want to doubt it. He has the resources and connections. Fry his circuits, Robots, distractions and heavy weapons are all good means to bring IM down.
Tony is not smarter, he might be the better engineer but Batman is by far the better tactician and smarter on top of that. He doesn't have to fight him h2h. That would be stupid. Tony needs his armor, so why fight an armored coward with h2h alone? A fair fight wouldn't go well for Tony, because he is inferior to Bruce, so it's all about exploit the weakness of the other and find a way to shut him down. Which is easier with an techbased armor then with someone like Batman. A new kind of EMP which could shut Tonys armor, not the usual crap, is in a possibility for someone like bruce. His best card however is his experience. He prepped to take the whole JL down, and he has for everyone a plan, also for Cyborg. I am not Batman but if he has a failsafe for people like Superman, Cyborg, Firestorm etc. Tony shouldn't be a problem.

Captain America, while an superior h2h fighter is completly differen't from Batman, he relies to much on his fighting skills and not hus tech, brains and experience.

Sure, in an open unprepped fight, a coward in an midherald armor will win against an peak Human. But with prep time, the speciality of Batman, I don't see Tony winning.

Originally posted by janus77
IM splits BatMan in two?

How is prep going to help Batman against IM?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Have you read a Batman comic?

Yes, ofcourse and no, he's not better at prep than Stark.

If anything he's a good deal less impressive. Stark, as much as I don't really like him, has managed to split apart the Phoenix Force, to cause it pain. He's also made a duplicate (though inferior) of Thor, he's harnessed Asgardian tech and is now some kind of quasi-cyborg destined to "uplift" the tech of all humanity.

If it were a question of figuring out who's been sleeping in Robin's bed, I'd gladly concede that Batman's detective skills would give him the advantage.

The argument from the bat-side seems to be that Bruce wins because he's Batman, I mean just about every tactic people have listed for him, Tony can also do, plus he starts out much higher on the power/durability scale.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The argument from the bat-side seems to be that Bruce wins because he's Batman, I mean just about every tactic people have listed for him, Tony can also do, plus he starts out much higher on the power/durability scale.

No the argument is, he has more experience and is the better tactician/leader.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Because his possibilities are sheer endless. Hack is a possibility, as much as you want to doubt it. He has the resources and connections. Fry his circuits, Robots, distractions and heavy weapons are all good means to bring IM down.
Tony is not smarter, he might be the better engineer but Batman is by far the better tactician and smarter on top of that. He doesn't have to fight him h2h. That would be stupid. Tony needs his armor, so why fight an armored coward with h2h alone? A fair fight wouldn't go well for Tony, because he is inferior to Bruce, so it's all about exploit the weakness of the other and find a way to shut him down. Which is easier with an techbased armor then with someone like Batman. A new kind of EMP which could shut Tonys armor, not the usual crap, is in a possibility for someone like bruce. His best card however is his experience. He prepped to take the whole JL down, and he has for everyone a plan, also for Cyborg. I am not Batman but if he has a failsafe for people like Superman, Cyborg, Firestorm etc. Tony shouldn't be a problem.

Captain America, while an superior h2h fighter is completly differen't from Batman, he relies to much on his fighting skills and not hus tech, brains and experience.

Sure, in an open unprepped fight, a coward in an midherald armor will win against an peak Human. But with prep time, the speciality of Batman, I don't see Tony winning.

Terrible arguments all around. Can't expect much from a fanatic, however. :/

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
No the argument is, he has more experience and is the better tactician/leader.

How does being a better leader help in a one-on-one fight?

Originally posted by IHateCoughing
Terrible arguments all around. Can't expect much from a fanatic, however. :/

At least man up and use your real account 😉.

Batman isn't too proud to use tech that isn't his. He will do whatever needs to be done to get the job done. Tonys biggest weakness here is his ego imo.

Originally posted by Odekahn
Batman isn't too proud to use tech that isn't his. He will do whatever needs to be done to get the job done. Tonys biggest weakness here is his ego imo.

Like how Tony refused to use that Asgadian power source when building his Thor-buster armor?

Originally posted by -Pr-
With prep? Split.

Without? Iron Man, obviously.

Even Iron Man Mark Zero > Supermanbuster suit 😛