Originally posted by Firefly218
Its not about Tony not prepping effectively, its the fact that Bruce is just much better in his preperation. Saying Tony will beat Bruce because he has good tech is like saying the Rock could punch spiderman because he is really strong
Give examples of what Batman can do that is beyond Tony's ability to deal with.
Originally posted by Firefly218
Tony could scoff at the idea of a fight Batman, who is a mere mortal, thus not preparing as hard as he would for the likes of Hulk or Ultron. Thus Batman proceeds to kick ass.
IOW, Tony has to act like a complete moron in order for Batman to win.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
So your argument is Batman wins if Tony doesn't fight?
Basically.
Originally posted by Silent Master
AgreedAgreed
Neither is Tony
Bruce isn't winning a fist fight with Ironman, he'd break his hands on the armor.
Good for him, but not really going to help in a 1-on-1 fight.
So your argument is that Tony is too arrogant to properly prep for Batman?
As long as Tony doesn't actually prep effectively?
Actually, yes. I think Tony would underestimate Bruce. Now that's just my opinion, but it's hardly out of character. He makes big nasty weapons, but a lot of times he's executing other's plans. Cap, Reed, Pym...
And when I say fist fight, I mean fists only. Aka no armor/no gear. So if Bruce can find a way to make Tonys armor go haywire to stop working altogether, Bats will win.
And yes, surroundings and mind games (or illusions) would absolutely matter in a 1v1.
Originally posted by Firefly218
Its not about Tony not prepping effectively, its the fact that Bruce is just much better in his preperation. Saying Tony will beat Bruce because he has good tech is like saying the Rock could punch spiderman because he is really strong
He might have better prep feats, yes, but he's still fighting an uphill battle here. Bruce's intelligence notwithstanding, he's simply too outclassed. Whatever he could devise in a week Tony would counter with a few tweaks on his armor.
Originally posted by Juk3nqft 👆
After 4 pages and decades of showings, what this boils down to is 'Batman finds a way'.Id say ironman wins, because Batman has to come up with a defense and an offense in the same week, tony just needs to focus on covering his back, because he'll do a little research and find out Batman is an expert at exploitation of weaknesses and he always finds a way.
He nukes from orbit.
Originally posted by IHateCoughing
"He'll find a way" has become the signature maxim for Batman fans.
Because it's basically written on his forehead, lol.
It's not insane to see Batman overcome the unthinkable. I do think this an uphill battle.
Batman has a MUCH greater resume than Tony in regards to variety expertise. I do think Tony is a much better tech head, but I don't think I Bruce is incapable of keeping up. All things considered, in a game of chess Bruce has the edge and that's exactly what this would turn into.
Originally posted by ODG
^ Cap is a master strategist and always finds a way too even against Red Skull w/ Cosmic Cube or Korvac but he'd get roflstomped in a prep fight with Stark.I think perspective has been lost here. Batman isn't Doom.
And Tony wouldn't beat Cap in a combat strategy course either.
Captain America doesn't have the technical knowledge nor the resources Bruce does. Of course he would lose in a prep fight.
Bruce does have some impressive tech feats, enough to be able to keep up at least. And he has the strategical feats to give Captain America a run for his money.
He's a jack of all trades.
Sorry about this guys (I don't really have dog in this fight), but if Lex Luthor could make a battle suit that can take on Superman, don't you think Bruce could build a similar (but slightly inferior) battle suit specifically designed to take on Iron Man (similar to the one in The Dark Knight Returns) inside of a week? Also, is it outside of the realm of possibility that Bruce already has a highly advanced battle suit lying around for just such an occasion(I'm not on anyone's side, I'm just asking)?