Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver brought up the point that we use current characters only. Then offered scans in support of your argument. Then you chimed in with a comment agreeing with him. This led to me placing the two of you in the same camp, in my mind.My rebuttal to carver was that if he wanted to follow the letter of the forum law, and stick to current incarnations, then by extension, his side (i.e. you) shouldn't be mentioning HoM Wanda, as by definition, she was from HoM, not current.
I don't think the OP wanted broken characters running around in the thread. Why give 10 years prep? Like you said, Panther has the gems already. Or at least, his team does, and its doubtful they'd bust them out for the Sacred Alliance (its not like they were used during WWH, or Secret Invasion, or any of the other events). Hell, BP was the one advocating they DIDN'T use them in New Avengers, IIRC. In character, as per the forum, he wouldn't use them, and he wouldn't be able to convince the others to give them up.
But again, its moot. Having broken characters (God Swamp Thing, HoM Wanda, Emperor Joker, BP with the full IG) is impossible to argue around - Why even have people like Hawkeye etc on the team?
I only unveiled Lobo breaking the 4th wall, because it always stops broken characters running around in threads. Am only too happy to debate 'normal' character levels and have a nice prep war, perhaps with lots of lovely scans showing the awesome prep feats from both sides, rather than things like : BP stomps, Wanda stomps, Swamp Thing stomps etc etc.
Little of what you just said makes any sense. First of all, I don't buy into your premise of "broken characters." You have TOTALLY misinterpreted the mention of Wanda's power. No one said that current Wanda would be plucked from the present and replaced with HOM Wanda from the past (which is still Wanda by the way). What we are saying is that Wanda has demonstrated reality warping powers, ON HER OWN. On the other hand, Emporer Joker ACQUIRED THE POWERS FROM A 5D IMP. That's the same as putting another character on the board, but it doesn't matter because no one would allow Joker to become Emporer Joker again- NO ONE. Emporer Joker is simply not part of the discussion. Wanda could in theory be brought to realize the power level she demonstrated with ten years of training/strategizes to achieve the goal. Hell, if she could simple created a new reality for the D.C. characters her team would win.
I'm sorry, but I think even you realize that BP using the gems is a very realistic possibility. BP was part of the team that DID use them and Captain America was the wielder. BP was NOT opposed to using them. As a matter of fact, BP in character is more likely to use extreme measures if he sees the need. BP was the mastermind that kicked Captain America out of the group because Captain America was not willing to do whatever it took to DESTROY A UNIVERSE if need be. BP made it completely clear that he and the rest of the team were and they proceeded to mind wipe Cap. It's easily in character for BP. He has access to the gems, and he WILL go there.
Here you see Cap using the Infinity Gauntlet recently. The team has devices implanted in their hands where any member can assemble the team against their will. Also Cap failed, there were no detrimental effects from using the IG that would discourage BP to us it in the future. Unlike Cap, BP would have 10 years to master the IG, AND he is much smarter than Cap with a broader scope toward cosmic level events, AND he would do so with the guidance of the Panther God AND the knowledge of all previous BPs. Furthermore, he doesn't even have to let the team on the board know about it, and in character, he wouldn't. It would be his contingency plan, and what a plan it would be.
Kinda beats the strategy of allowing Joker to become an evil universe threat who would torture and kill people only to bring them back to life and repeat the process.