Well I think everyone would be better off if they followed the rules.
As Mxy isn't in the Thread, I'm not sure why emperor joker is being mentioned and lol @ Sif sun dipping for 10 years, it truely has a better chance of killing Sif before the battle. God Swamp thing, Void Sentry, WBH& Hom Wanda among others are all context characters and are not part of the thread.
Even without the Infinity Gems/gauntlet team Avengers has better preppers & better access to base materials like Uru & Vibranium.
Originally posted by carver9Oh no, I most certainly believe that Hulk starts off as a high herald. I just believe that lobo is stronger than him. I know for a fact that Lobo is faster than the Hulk though (he usually catches Superman off guard with his speed)
You see, this is the problem. What is Hulk "start off strength" and provide a scan please? To my knowledge, Hulk starts off as High Herald strength wise, especially within the past 10 yrs but I'm pretty sure you have something proving me wrong.🙂
Originally posted by deathslash
Oh no, I most certainly believe that Hulk starts off as a high herald. I just believe that lobo is stronger than him. I know for a fact that Lobo is faster than the Hulk though (he usually catches Superman off guard with his speed)
Back in the classic days, yes, he use to catch Superman off guard with his speed. When was the last time something like that happened? Hulk blitz blitzers. Do you have any scans of Lobo latest speed fts? Not from the 70s or 80s...some up to date stuff?
I know one thing, even Hulk weaker incarnations start off at high Herald levels of strength.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11948644/11.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11948645/12.jpg.html
Never seen a High Herald casually toss a pyramid like a base ball. This is the WEAKEST form of Hulk.
You'll have to use looney toon Lobo to find anything similar to what I've just posted.
Originally posted by carver9
Back in the classic days, yes, he use to catch Superman off guard with his speed. When was the last time something like that happened? Hulk blitz blitzers. Do you have any scans of Lobo latest speed fts? Not from the 70s or 80s...some up to date stuff?I know one thing, even Hulk weaker incarnations start off at high Herald levels of strength.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11948644/11.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11948645/12.jpg.htmlNever seen a High Herald casually toss a pyramid like a base ball. This is the WEAKEST form of Hulk.
You'll have to use looney toon Lobo to find anything similar to what I've just posted.
I haven't read that issue but, sorry brah; I don't see HULK throwing that pyramid. Maybe it's on another page that's unposted.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
you accused me up doing something that Carver thought you were accusing him of. I have no idea what you're talking about so explain if you like.as far as the OP's intentions, yes I'm within the parameters of what he laid out. BP actually does have a team and they actually do have the Infiniti gyms and no one else but them know about it. It may not be a strategy he that he thought of, but so what? That doesn't make it invalid. It is a viable strategy that Black Panther would consider using in my opinion. Perhaps you can tell me why it isn't. it also happens to be a 4 more likely strategy then General Zod sitting in the Sun for 10 years or the team allowing Joker to somehow acquire the powers of a 5 D Imp and be subjected to his sickness.
Carver brought up the point that we use current characters only. Then offered scans in support of your argument. Then you chimed in with a comment agreeing with him. This led to me placing the two of you in the same camp, in my mind.
My rebuttal to carver was that if he wanted to follow the letter of the forum law, and stick to current incarnations, then by extension, his side (i.e. you) shouldn't be mentioning HoM Wanda, as by definition, she was from HoM, not current.
I don't think the OP wanted broken characters running around in the thread. Why give 10 years prep? Like you said, Panther has the gems already. Or at least, his team does, and its doubtful they'd bust them out for the Sacred Alliance (its not like they were used during WWH, or Secret Invasion, or any of the other events). Hell, BP was the one advocating they DIDN'T use them in New Avengers, IIRC. In character, as per the forum, he wouldn't use them, and he wouldn't be able to convince the others to give them up.
But again, its moot. Having broken characters (God Swamp Thing, HoM Wanda, Emperor Joker, BP with the full IG) is impossible to argue around - Why even have people like Hawkeye etc on the team?
I only unveiled Lobo breaking the 4th wall, because it always stops broken characters running around in threads. Am only too happy to debate 'normal' character levels and have a nice prep war, perhaps with lots of lovely scans showing the awesome prep feats from both sides, rather than things like : BP stomps, Wanda stomps, Swamp Thing stomps etc etc.
Originally posted by carver9
Back in the classic days, yes, he use to catch Superman off guard with his speed. When was the last time something like that happened? Hulk blitz blitzers. Do you have any scans of Lobo latest speed fts? Not from the 70s or 80s...some up to date stuff?I know one thing, even Hulk weaker incarnations start off at high Herald levels of strength.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11948644/11.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11948645/12.jpg.htmlNever seen a High Herald casually toss a pyramid like a base ball. This is the WEAKEST form of Hulk.
You'll have to use looney toon Lobo to find anything similar to what I've just posted.
Lobo only came out in 83, and his series only came out in the 90s, so I highly doubt anyone will post his feats from the 70s/80s 😛
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver brought up the point that we use current characters only. Then offered scans in support of your argument. Then you chimed in with a comment agreeing with him. This led to me placing the two of you in the same camp, in my mind.My rebuttal to carver was that if he wanted to follow the letter of the forum law, and stick to current incarnations, then by extension, his side (i.e. you) shouldn't be mentioning HoM Wanda, as by definition, she was from HoM, not current.
I don't think the OP wanted broken characters running around in the thread. Why give 10 years prep? Like you said, Panther has the gems already. Or at least, his team does, and its doubtful they'd bust them out for the Sacred Alliance (its not like they were used during WWH, or Secret Invasion, or any of the other events). Hell, BP was the one advocating they DIDN'T use them in New Avengers, IIRC. In character, as per the forum, he wouldn't use them, and he wouldn't be able to convince the others to give them up.
But again, its moot. Having broken characters (God Swamp Thing, HoM Wanda, Emperor Joker, BP with the full IG) is impossible to argue around - Why even have people like Hawkeye etc on the team?
I only unveiled Lobo breaking the 4th wall, because it always stops broken characters running around in threads. Am only too happy to debate 'normal' character levels and have a nice prep war, perhaps with lots of lovely scans showing the awesome prep feats from both sides, rather than things like : BP stomps, Wanda stomps, Swamp Thing stomps etc etc.
post on my Team Zod vs Avengers thread none off the broken characters
Originally posted by maxivitopoweand all the kings horses and all the kings men couldn't put this broken thread together again.
post on my Team Zod vs Avengers broken thread
Originally posted by deathslash
Oh no, I most certainly believe that Hulk starts off as a high herald. I just believe that lobo is stronger than him. I know for a fact that Lobo is faster than the Hulk though (he usually catches Superman off guard with his speed)
Which proves nothing. Superman's super speed is always jobbing. Lobo will not beat Hulk based on speed anyway.
