Top 10 Jedi/Sith

I have come up with a list of the top ten Jedi and the top ten Sith.
I am aiming to be as accurate as possible.
Doesn't include Revan (because you mention him, and fights break out).

Sith
1. Darth Sidious
2. Lord Vitiate
3. Darth Nihilus
4. Darth Bane
5. Exar Kun
6. Darth Krayt
7. Darth Malgus
8. Dooku
9. Darth Caedus
10. Darth Vader

Jedi
1. Luke Skywalker (NJO)
2. Yoda
3. Hero of Tython
4. Barsen'Thor
5. Galen Marek
6. Nomi Sunrider
7. Satele Shan
8. Cade Skywalker
9. Mace Windu
10. IDK, Anakin Skywalker?

Now as for questions on my choices

1. DOOKU HIER THAN CAEDUZ? WTF MAN?
Dooku has a better track record overall, while Caedus is inconsistent. Caedus hasn't beaten anyone through pure sabers (he baited Mara into a bad position, and he TK'd a shuttle at Katarn), and the Luke fight states that Luke was fighting extremely recklessly.

2. GALEN MAREK SO HI? BUT HE WAS A VIDIO GAEM GIMIK!!!
There was a novel (as we all know), Galen beat Vader (struggled, but stomped in the end), reflected and ADVANCED against Sidious' lightning (Yoda couldn't do this, and to those who think Sidious wasn't trying to kill Galen, realize Galen could have became Sidious' superior), his TK is INSANE (you don't just redirect a 900 meter ship and get downplayed), and his lightning killed a Mega Sarlacc, the biggest one in the galaxy.

Everything else should be somewhat obvious.

I really like your list. 👆

And I agree about Caedus. Luke was fighting reckless as hell in that fight. Not sure I'd actually count Marek as a Jedi. mmm But if I did, thats where I'd put him.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I really like your list. 👆

And I agree about Caedus. Luke was fighting reckless as hell in that fight. Not sure I'd actually count Marek as a Jedi. mmm But if I did, thats where I'd put him.

Though I do ask one thing. Who is more powerful? HoT or Barsen'Thor? And technically shouldn't Galen be #3 because of his RIDICULOUS feats?

I mean like
-fried a Mega Sarlacc
-LOLSTOMP Vader
-reflected advanced against old fart's lightning
-the droid hurricane that you mentioned in a different thread
-REPULSE DA BESTEST
-Moved a Star Destroyer
-Distintegrated a frigate (again, something you mentioned in a different thread
-good saber ability

The Hero in my book.

Galens feats ARE ridiculous. Which is the point. They're purposefully exaggerated to be "unleashed" and as ridiculously over-the-top as possible. I take them with a serious grain of salt and rank him more in how he measures up against Vader. Marek is only a bit above Vader, so thats where he ranks to me.

This is judging them on power.

I'd be interested in seeing a list of top Jedi/Sith based on following the ideals of their respective orders.

I would imagine Obi-Wan would be top tier for the Jedi and Bane would be top tier for the Sith.

Revan and Anakin wouldn't make the list because becoming a Sith Lord totally misses the point of all that Jedi training.

Nihilus wouldn't make the list since the Sith are all about being masters of the force, while Nihilus seems to be a slave to it.

Darth Vader wouldn't be on the list because converting back to the light side misses the point of all that Sith training.

Uthar (KotOR) wouldn't make it because he let his master live, which isn't really the Sith way.

I think Exar Kun, Plagueis, and Sidious would be on the list for Sith.

Ajunta Pall is out because he was redeemed.

Luke may be out because he fell to the darkside.

Anyways, if I have freetime, I might compile a full list.

But the novelization only has him guiding or diverting the path of the falling Star Destroyer.

So does the game.

Vader should be higher. In fact higher than Nihilus.

Not a bad list

Originally posted by XRKun
Doesn't include Revan (because you mention him, and fights break out).

Originally posted by XRKun
Sith
1. Darth Sidious
2. Lord Vitiate
3. Darth Nihilus
4. Darth Bane
5. Exar Kun
6. Darth Krayt
7. Darth Malgus
8. Dooku
9. Darth Caedus
10. Darth Vader

- Put Sidious and Vitiate in a TIER.
- Darth Bane shouldn't be at 4th spot.
- Darth Malgus is noticeably stronger then Drath Krayt.
- Dooku shouldn't be in TOP TEN.
- Darth Caedus is noticeably stronger then Count Dooku.
- Darth Vader shouldn't be in TOP TEN either.

Originally posted by XRKun
Jedi
1. Luke Skywalker (NJO)
2. Yoda
3. Hero of Tython
4. Barsen'Thor
5. Galen Marek
6. Nomi Sunrider
7. Satele Shan
8. Cade Skywalker
9. Mace Windu
10. IDK, Anakin Skywalker?

- Yoda is canonically the most powerful Jedi. If you want to put Luke above him then develop a TIER and put your top 4 in it.
- Galen Marek is not a Jedi.
- You can consider Aryn Leener, Tol Braga, Jacen Solo, Jaric Kaedan and Kao Cen Darach for this list.

Originally posted by XRKun
1. DOOKU HIER THAN CAEDUZ? WTF MAN?
Dooku has a better track record overall, while Caedus is inconsistent. Caedus hasn't beaten anyone through pure sabers (he baited Mara into a bad position, and he TK'd a shuttle at Katarn), and the Luke fight states that Luke was fighting extremely recklessly.

Katarn was part of a Strike Team and that entire Team couldn't stop Ceadus. In addition, I don't think that Count Dooku could hold up against Luke like Caedus did, reckless or not.

Originally posted by XRKun
2. GALEN MAREK SO HI? BUT HE WAS A VIDIO GAEM GIMIK!!!
There was a novel (as we all know), Galen beat Vader (struggled, but stomped in the end), reflected and ADVANCED against Sidious' lightning (Yoda couldn't do this, and to those who think Sidious wasn't trying to kill Galen, realize Galen could have became Sidious' superior), his TK is INSANE (you don't just redirect a 900 meter ship and get downplayed), and his lightning killed a Mega Sarlacc, the biggest one in the galaxy.

Everything else should be somewhat obvious.

- Darth Malgus is noticeably stronger then Drath Krayt.

Quite arguable (as evidenced by the last Malgus/Krayt thread).

Originally posted by The Merchant
Vader should be higher. In fact higher than Nihilus.

LOLWUT.

Also, I think the idea of "tiers" is better. Looking at WotC's ranking system fo their top swordsman including a list of ten, but pointed out that they were so close in skill that they were always a legitimate threat to each other, barring PIS, and the ordering could change very rapidly. Ultimately, we might do ourselves more justice using tiers which can be agreed upon rather than pretending like A is better than B so much as to be differentiated.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
😂

Some observations:-

- Put Sidious and Vitiate in a TIER.
- Darth Bane shouldn't be at 4th spot.
- Darth Malgus is noticeably stronger then Drath Krayt.
- Dooku shouldn't be in TOP TEN.
- Darth Caedus is noticeably stronger then Count Dooku.
- Darth Vader shouldn't be in TOP TEN either.

Some observations:-

- Yoda is canonically the most powerful Jedi. If you want to put Luke above him then develop a TIER and put your top 4 in it.
- Galen Marek is not a Jedi.
- You can consider Aryn Leener, Tol Braga, Jacen Solo, Jaric Kaedan and Kao Cen Darach for this list.

Well, Dooku have his low moments as well.

Katarn was part of a Strike Team and that entire Team couldn't stop Ceadus. In addition, I don't think that Count Dooku could hold up against Luke like Caedus did, reckless or not.

See above

Marek is technically more of a jedi than Luke. He's had more jedi training.

I think Dooku would do reasonably well in sabers against Luke. I mean he was the greatest Makashi practicioner to ever live, he outfenced up to 4 duelists at one point, and gave Yoda a very good fight.

Plus he was able to block a LOT of Zonakin's strikes before being disarmed and beheaded. And Zonakin is arguably the better saber duelist than Luke.

Luke is stronger than Yoda. Luke's fairly inconsistent, but when he's on a good day, he's incredible.

Dooku is better than Caedus. I'm sorry. Dooku has an amazing track record. Caedus doesn't.

Kao Cen Darach for this list? LOL
Jacen Solo is a Sith
Gimme some feats for Kaedan and Aryn, because all the former can do is resist the Dread Master's influence and the latter just has Force Empathy.
Dunno much about Braga either.

Top Ten Sith:
1. Darth Sidious
2. Darth Plagueis
3. The Sith Emperor
4. Darth Caedus
5. Dath Bane
6. Darth Krayt
7. Exar Kun
8. Darth Vader
9. Darth Malgus
10. Emperor's Wrath

Top Ten Jedi:
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Yoda
3. Revan
4. Hero of Tython
5. Mace Windu
6. Anakin Skywalker
7. Satele Shan
8. Barsen'thor
9. Galen Marek
10. Obi-Wan Kenobi

NOTE: Not including Darth Nihilus or Dread Masters

Actually no, raise Anakin up way higher for mine ^

"This is Anakin Skywalker:
The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation. The fastest. The strongest. An unbeatable pilot. An unstoppable warrior. On the ground, in the air or sea or space, there is no one even close. He has not just power, not just skill, but dash: that rare, invaluable combination of boldness and grace. He is the best there is at what he does. The best there has ever been. And he knows it."
-Revenge of the Sith Novel

I doubt Anakin>Yoda, except in raw power.

Nihilus should be number one on the sith list if this is a measurement of power and force abilities. However if this is a measurement of galactic influence, than Sidious and Vitate are rightfully both #1/#2.

Nihilus has the most powerful TK in the mythos, as well as a a planetary drain that has no counter. Additionally Nihilus has no physical body and thus is much harder to harm physicall, such as with sabers and physical combat.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Actually no, raise Anakin up way higher for mine ^

"This is Anakin Skywalker:
The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation. The fastest. The strongest. An unbeatable pilot. An unstoppable warrior. On the ground, in the air or sea or space, there is no one even close. He has not just power, not just skill, but dash: that rare, invaluable combination of boldness and grace. He is the best there is at what he does. The best there has ever been. And he knows it."
-Revenge of the Sith Novel

So C-canon is more binding than later evidence which demonstrates better Force use and saber use?

So C-canon is more binding than later evidence which demonstrates better Force use and saber use?

Nihilus should be number one on the sith list if this is a measurement of power and force abilities.

I never said he wasn't...I didn't include him on PURPOSE 🙂

Honestly that book is predicated on hyperbole.