Majestic VS Gladiator: TO THE DEATH!

Started by JBL5 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
Who cares what Image says? Feats matter in these kinds of matchups, not company statements.
Image cares, DC cares and Marvel cares. Supreme was created after DC heros and was created above them. You do know that Image challenged DC and they backed down, feats and all. So Image and Marvel put Supreme and Gladiator against each other. Feats were nothing to both companys because some characters were around long enough to have feats that could be mistaken to lead people to believe one character could beat another because he/she had more feats. Powersets were used and were presented to both Marvel and DC. DC backed out. Now heres the part thats going to hurt your feelings.. Superman was the original target of Image and powerset against powerset, superman was going to lose so instead, DC backed out. Now take a close look at the supreme/gladiator battle, There is more to that fight than you know if you understood what was being shown. Thats why i have always said, let me train you abhil. That battle between glads and supreme was discussed between both companys way before it hit the books and both companys presented there characters abilities to the point that it was too close to call, even down to the point where gladiators concern for his people almost cost him the match,yet at the same time almost cost supreme the match, now figure that out or i can explain that to you.

What feats does Supreme have that put him over Superman or Majestic?

Originally posted by JBL
Image cares, DC cares and Marvel cares..
Supreme was created after DC heros and was created above them.
So any character who is created by a company and stated to be above someone is above them? I should start a comic company of my own now.
You do know that Image challenged DC and they backed down, feats and all.
Hahaha, what? Where do all the CBRians create such inane facts? When did Image challenge DC and they backed down?
So Image and Marvel put Supreme and Gladiator against each other. Feats were nothing to both companys because some characters were around long enough to have feats that could be mistaken to lead people to believe one character could beat another because he/she had more feats. Powersets were used and were presented to both Marvel and DC. DC backed out. Now heres the part thats going to hurt your feelings.. Superman was the original target of Image and powerset against powerset, superman was going to lose so instead, DC backed out. Now take a close look at the supreme/gladiator battle, There is more to that fight than you know if you understood what was being shown. Thats why i have always said, let me train you abhil. That battle between glads and supreme was discussed between both companys way before it hit the books and both companys presented there characters abilities to the point that it was too close to call, even down to the point where gladiators concern for his people almost cost him the match,yet at the same time almost cost supreme the match, now figure that out or i can explain that to you.
This is nothing but rambling from someone who hasn't read either Supreme or Superman. Supreme was stated to be above Superman by Mcfarlane because he destroyed a planet in his first issue. By that standard many characters would be above superman. Guess what, they aren't. Lulz @ you trying to teach me something. Go back to your room child.

Originally posted by Golgo13
What feats does Supreme have that put him over Superman or Majestic?
Image does/did not go by feats. Superman was out first and Image brought out a character more powerful. Just like comparing a lt1 corvette to the next generation ls1 corvette so to speak. The lt1 was good, the ls1 is better.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So any character who is created by a company and stated to be above someone is above them? I should start a comic company of my own now. Hahaha, what? Where do all the CBRians create such inane facts? When did Image challenge DC and they backed down? This is nothing but rambling from someone who hasn't read either Supreme or Superman. Supreme was stated to be above Superman by Mcfarlane because he destroyed a planet in his first issue. By that standard many characters would be above superman. Guess what, they aren't. Lulz @ you trying to teach me something. Go back to your room child.
Such childish antics is a waste of my time.

Originally posted by JBL
Such childish antics is a waste of my time.

Concession Accepted.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nah, Supreme is generally above Heralds (He was even specifically created to be above Superman IIRC). I'd give him odds over Thor/Superman/Surfer on average. The post-Moore version anyways. Gladiator doing as well as he did is no mean feat, yet Majestic beats him every single time? Ridiculous. Not even Thor/Superman can accomplish that.

You mean Pre-Moore version, yes? Because the post-Moore version, despite being stated to be the most powerful Supreme, lost/stalemated Omni-man.

Originally posted by ares834
You mean Pre-Moore version, yes? Because the post-Moore version, despite being stated to be the most powerful Supreme, lost/stalemated Omni-man.

And look at who the main tier characters lost to. Having a couple of not so average showings doesn't change a characters power level.

Originally posted by carver9
And look at who the main tier characters lost to. Having a couple of not so average showings doesn't change a characters power level.

The problem is post-Moore Supreme was only around for like half a dozen issues. His one real battle against another character who we know about was against Omni-Man.

Yeah, Omni-man looked both stronger and more durable. Supreme used HV and strength while Nolan only used his strength. This is why planet busting is useless in actual fights.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why is Majestic winning such a landslide? Strength and speed is about even while Gladiator has the durability edge (Majestic is a bit softer like Wonder Woman, unable to survive in Stars and so on). Skill is about a wash, Gladiator is a veteran combatant.

This is pretty much a stalemate. Frankly, I'd favor Gladiator in a straight up slug fest fight but Majestic is craftier and if he has his swords, would get the edge.

Pretty much agree with this. Fight is very close

Originally posted by Galan007
Majestic. Every single time.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The post-Moore version anyways. Gladiator doing as well as he did is no mean feat, yet Majestic beats him every single time? Ridiculous. Not even Thor/Superman can accomplish that.

Majestic is a terrible matchup for Gladiator. In most confrontations Gladiator has the edge in ferocity, that isn't the case here. He is usually more skilled, again, that doesn't apply here.

The margin of error that would allow him to take one or two from Superman or Thor doesn't exist here.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why is Majestic winning such a landslide? Strength and speed is about even while Gladiator has the durability edge (Majestic is a bit softer like Wonder Woman, unable to survive in Stars and so on). Skill is about a wash, Gladiator is a veteran combatant.

This is pretty much a stalemate. Frankly, I'd favor Gladiator in a straight up slug fest fight but Majestic is craftier and if he has his swords, would get the edge.

Majestic isn't.

Basically. 👆

Originally posted by ODG
Majestic isn't.

Basically. 👆

Majestic is winning by a landslide.

Kallark has no advantage over Majestic.

NONE.

not sure why anyone would put supreme above guys like thor/ss or superman. same tier? sure. i wouldn't give a sweep to maj either, but there is no proof that supreme is above hh. he has some pretty cool powers on top of the usual superclones, but that doesn't make him more powerful over all. and this idea that dc was somehow "afraid" of image, and "backed down" to them, is, frankly, laughable, without some extremely definitive proof to support it. i'd say this fight was pretty close. 6/10 to maj, higher of course of he gets the blades.

Originally posted by leonidas
not sure why anyone would put supreme above guys like thor/ss or superman. same tier? sure. i wouldn't give a sweep to maj either, but there is no proof that supreme is above hh. he has some pretty cool powers on top of the usual superclones, but that doesn't make him more powerful over all. and this idea that dc was somehow "afraid" of image, and "backed down" to them, is, frankly, laughable, without some extremely definitive proof to support it. i'd say this fight was pretty close. 6/10 to maj, higher of course of he gets the blades.

That makes you remember another poster, doesn't it leo? Country1000 or some such?

grr......just when i was starting to like you, you have to bring that name up.....

Originally posted by leonidas
grr......just when i was starting to like you, you have to bring that name up.....

Just laughing at some of his old posts, old man.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Majestic is winning by a landslide.

Kallark has no advantage over Majestic.

NONE.

Causing a landslide to fall on Gladiator will be ineffective since he can fly over it.

Other than demonstrating far greater energy durability and striking power on-panel.

I understand your opinion isn't actually based on comics, so I'm not offended.