Superman vs......Low Heralds

Originally posted by Sin I AM
But that's cherry picking pr. The same could be said for every character. Hell strange would be a skyfather.

It's not cherry picking when it's consistent. There's a difference between a character like say, Cyclops, who has a nice feat every now and then, even if they vary wildly at times, and a character like Superman or Thor who, when pushed to the limit, leave their so-called peers behind.

It's the difference between a freak outlier and a "this is what happens when you push him/her this far" situation.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Yes, he is.

Now, again, what is your impression of an unrestrained Superman?

If you give me an example it will make for a better debate.

Except they actually did say that in a comic.

Superman has dynamic strength, and has for years now.

The argument that he doesn't is either born of ignorance or hate, imo.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn

Now I'll ask you the same question I asked SIN I AM.

What do you think an unrestrained Superman is capable of?

So are u suggesting that outlier is their norm? High end feats are just that. High end. They just have more to draw on since they are marquee personas. The key word u used was when "pushed" and its generally circumstantial and plot based. Silver Surfer when pushed has higher level feats..he still doesn't eclipse his peers and it damn sure doesn't place him in the trans category. If so make the thread. A serious superman vs ...any trans tier.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Except they actually did say that in a comic.

Superman has dynamic strength, and has for years now.

The argument that he doesn't is either born of ignorance or hate, imo.

Originally posted by JBL
No he does not. I tell you what, let me and you take this to a battlezone. But let me ask you these questions. Why does superman sundipp or gets outside amps? When has superman fought and equal and was noted to stop holding back or drop mental blocks and all of a sudden gets stronger than his stated equal?

Yes, he does; the final authority, THE COMICS, say he does.

Why take this to a battlezone? We both know it won't change either of our minds, and your Superman hate is well known on the forum.

He sundips because he needs to amp to level his dynamic strength can't reach quickly enough. It's his power up move, and a writing device to show him pulling out all of the stops.

Superman against Probes. Superman against Doomsday. Superman during most of the run from Loeb's start on the book up until IC.

It's usually shown as Superman switching in to another gear, but has been shown in other ways.

Not to mention Emil Hamilton actually flat out STATING that Superman gets more powerful based on solar absorption due to his emotional state, which is consistent with the comics.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yes, he does; the final authority, THE COMICS, say he does.

Why take this to a battlezone? We both know it won't change either of our minds, and your Superman hate is well known on the forum.

He sundips because he needs to amp to level his dynamic strength can't reach quickly enough. It's his power up move, and a writing device to show him pulling out all of the stops.

Superman against Probes. Superman against Doomsday. Superman during most of the run from Loeb's start on the book up until IC.

It's usually shown as Superman switching in to another gear, but has been shown in other ways.

Not to mention Emil Hamilton actually flat out STATING that Superman gets more powerful based on solar absorption due to his emotional state, which is consistent with the comics.

Originally posted by Mindset
Losing to Doom.

Not under these circumstances.

No restraint. No mental Blocks.

DOOM is no more!

Originally posted by JBL
The bell is ringing. School is out. But detention hall will have to be open now.

You've obviously left the University of comics too early, JBL.

Canon says that you've stated in regard to Superman is wrong.

Definitively.

Which do you want to challenge?

Mental blocks removed.

Bloodlusted.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Except they actually did say that in a comic.

Superman has dynamic strength, and has for years now.

The argument that he doesn't is either born of ignorance or hate, imo.

Or the third scenario

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You've obviously left the University of comics too early, JBL.

Canon says that you've stated in regard to Superman is wrong.

Definitively.

Which do you want to challenge?

Mental blocks removed.

Bloodlusted.

Originally posted by JBL
My challenge will be issued to non-bias people so that the judging will be fair to both sides. Enjoy your day. 😉

Ha, enjoy yours as well. sir! 😄

Superman even imposes mental blocks upon himself in MOS when he has to focus and concentrate because he's hearing and seeing through everything.

Originally posted by JBL
I could show you every character in comics were they gets bounced around and then win in the end. That in no way suggests that they got stronger or more powerful. Superman under stress starts absorbing more solar energy, UNDER STRESS, meaning hes using energy faster than his body can replenish while under stress. But lets just agree to disagree. Also, pointing out facts about a character is not hating that character.

if they were facts, it wouldn't be.

I don't know how many times I have to post this scan.

That is one scan. Continue to cherry pick feats all you want. That isn't the same as Hulks dynamic strength. Not at all.

It isn't cherry picking to say he has dynamic strength, when it has a decade's worth of support.

Not everything is about the Hulk, so quit your jealousy.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It isn't cherry picking to say he has dynamic strength, when it has a decade's worth of support.

Not everything is about the Hulk, so quit your jealousy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is one scan. Continue to cherry pick feats all you want. That isn't the same as Hulks dynamic strength. Not at all.