Originally posted by abhilegendThat is not on-panel proof. On-panel proof is like when he fought BA or WW and was not holding back and did not get any stronger. NOT by word of mouth. NOT by narration and NOT by the characters he was fighting. When superman FAILED to break through that force field that thors hammer destroyed, why did he not drop his mental blocks or use his so-called dynamic strength to bust that wall? When he held that minature black hole ( with help ) why did he not use his so-called dynamic strength to hold it rather than state he did not know how long he could hold it? Why did he not use his so-called dynamic strength to move the earth when he and others FAILED? When he moved war world, why did he go sun amp? Why did he not just remove his so-called mental blocks? There are HUNDREDS of ON-PANEL situations where IF he had dynamic strength, he could have used it, had it stated or narrated. EVERY superman writer has stated that superman and captain marvel or equals and NOT ONE has ever stated they or equals UNTIL superman drops mental blocks or go unrestrained. When he fused with captain marvel, did marvel feel any dynamic strength? Did he mention hidden strength? NO, it was SUPERMAN that felt marvels powers. Not one of your scans states anything about superman rising above ANY of his equals because he RETAINS sunlight when stressed or has a STRAIGHT mind. Superman HIMSELF stated that blizarro was stronger than him, now if so and superman had dynamic strength, why would he state that? Why would some writers suggest that black adam was stronger? They must dont know about superman or his dynamic strength??? I guess the writers and superman forget about it when superman gets beaten by a slightly stronger foe huh???
So you just ignore on panel proof now?
Originally posted by JBLWhy?
That is not on-panel proof.
On-panel proof is like when he fought BA or WW and was not holding back and did not get any stronger. NOT by word of mouth. NOT by narration and NOT by the characters he was fighting.He wasn't? How come both he and Adam agreed that superman's one punch would've finished the fight here?
When superman FAILED to break through that force field that thors hammer destroyed, why did he not drop his mental blocks or use his so-called dynamic strength to bust that wall?You mean when Superman using his strength with mjolnir destroyed the force-field? Anybody would tell you that Superman+Mjolnir>Superman. You are talking like Thor destroyed the force-field.
When he held that minature black hole ( with help ) why did he not use his so-called dynamic strength to hold it rather than state he did not know how long he could hold it?What Holding a black hole with help? He caught one in his palm, is that not enough for you?
Why did he not use his so-called dynamic strength to move the earth when he and others FAILED?Because he was weakened.
When he moved war world, why did he go sun amp?Because he wasn't trying to move it initially. He was trying to kill Brainiac 13 with imperiex power. Warworld moing was plan B.
Why did he not just remove his so-called mental blocks? There are HUNDREDS of ON-PANEL situations where IF he had dynamic strength, he could have used it, had it stated or narrated.I can post a dozen examples of him having mental blocks to regulate his power. You would just do it again.
EVERY superman writer has stated that superman and captain marvel or equals and NOT ONE has ever stated they or equals UNTIL superman drops mental blocks or go unrestrained.Have they? Cap's equal black adam was said to be weaker than power girl by Ostrander and Johns himself wrote Cap as weaker than pg.
When he fused with captain marvel, did marvel feel any dynamic strength? Did he mention hidden strength? NO, it was SUPERMAN that felt marvels powers.Because superman underestimated Cap's power.
Not one of your scans states anything about superman rising above ANY of his equals because he RETAINS sunlight when stressed or has a STRAIGHT mind. Superman HIMSELF stated that blizarro was stronger than him, now if so and superman had dynamic strength, why would he state that?He stated that and then caught his punch.
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/punchcatching/superman187a.jpg
Funny how that works.
Why would some writers suggest that black adam was stronger?Name one writer who said standard Adam was stronger.
They must dont know about superman or his dynamic strength??? I guess the writers and superman forget about it when superman gets beaten by a slightly stronger foe huh???Who beat him bro? Captain Marvel?
Or your imaginary black adam?
Originally posted by abhilegendYou have a bad habit of making false statements about scans dude. Im through with this because of the many fans that support wishes. Birds of a feather flock together. Lets talk about something else. Team stomps is my opinion, whats yours?
Why? He wasn't? How come both he and Adam agreed that superman's one punch would've finished the fight here?You mean when Superman using his strength with mjolnir destroyed the force-field? Anybody would tell you that Superman+Mjolnir>Superman. You are talking like Thor destroyed the force-field. What Holding a black hole with help? He caught one in his palm, is that not enough for you? Because he was weakened. Because he wasn't trying to move it initially. He was trying to kill Brainiac 13 with imperiex power. Warworld moing was plan B. I can post a dozen examples of him having mental blocks to regulate his power. You would just do it again. Have they? Cap's equal black adam was said to be weaker than power girl by Ostrander and Johns himself wrote Cap as weaker than pg. Because superman underestimated Cap's power. He stated that and then caught his punch.
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/punchcatching/superman187a.jpg
Funny how that works.
Name one writer who said standard Adam was stronger. Who beat him bro? Captain Marvel?
Or your imaginary black adam?
Originally posted by JBL
You have a bad habit of making false statements about scans dude. Im through with this because of the many fans that support wishes. Birds of a feather flock together. Lets talk about something else. Team stomps is my opinion, whats yours?
http://imageshack.us/a/img356/1002/racerxwwiiib4p11ji2.jpg
"There are those among us who are stronger, faster and more powerful".
"Fastest, maybe. But Not strongest."
Superman himself has also stated that he's the strongest being on earth, as has Morgan Le Fay, as has Batman, as has wonder woman and so on. If I start posting scans of superman being the strongest being on earth, I would flood this thread with scans.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Then what else supports it save that scan.
I already told you.
Originally posted by JBL
You are so right Quan. Superman can fight Black Adam and be in any emotional state he wants and he WILL NOT grow in strength to the point that BA starts noticing superman getting stronger or all of a sudden going a level above BA. Superman even stated he was the " most pissed at BA and was not holding back. Nothing special happened, even against WW when he thought she was Doomsday, nothing special. Now if that was Hulk, The characters and even the narrator would have notes hulks strength going up as it has been shown on-panel plenty times. An all out superman is superman giving all he has and it has been shown on-panel and that is nothing special to the likes of CM, BA and any other character that can match him. The same way thor had to put on his belt of strength to fight Kurse, superman would have had to go sun amp.
Superman was mentally compromised Diana, but I'm not surprised you'd try to use that, tbh (and inaccurately at that). Just another example of you thinly veiling your hate; yes, I could be nicer about it, but I've lost patience, and with you being a sock, it's not going to make a difference anyway.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Its ambiguous whether its canon or not.When? The dazzler thing was an illusion.
He alredy become invisible blocking light and others thing with his force field. And how dazzler thing was an ilusion ?
Marvel editors said that story was non cannon. Please post a source where says it is canon.
Originally posted by eaebiakuya
He alredy become invisible blocking light and others thing with his force field. And how dazzler thing was an ilusion ?Marvel editors said that story was non cannon. Please post a source where says it is canon.
Being invisible by deflecting light doesn't mean much in case of manipulating high powered heat waves. Nobody says Magnus can't manipulate EM waves.
First you show me where it was said to be non canon.
Here is the proof it was all an illusion.
