The Lords of Chaos & Order Vs Marvel's Skyfather's

Started by Branlor Swift3 pages

Originally posted by Golgo13
She may not have a lot of feats, but her implied power is more than your average Marvel skyfather. 😛
Good. Odin is omnipotent

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Good. Odin is omnipotent

Impotent, you mean? 😄

Originally posted by Golgo13
Awesome. Don't forget Amythest in her prime? An overlooked feat was she owned Mordru in a panel or 2. She was most uber.

Ohh FFS, that was shortly after mordu had taken on the body of the Gem World wizard and absorbed a soul. It was one of his first (chronological not in comics) appearances. Mordru's power grows over time, he absorbs the power of those he defeats. Almost all of Mordru's best showings in the 20th century are after he has absorbed the power of several Lords of Order and chaos. Most of Mordu's GOOD feats are actually feats for the power of several LOO/C. His greatest feats are in the 30th century after he has absorbed much of the power of sorcerers world.

Originally posted by operator616
I used him because this Mordru is the one associated with LoSH in the future, and he's been introduced before present Mordru, even post crisis.
There are actually 2 Mordrus, in JSA, Hourman confirmed that the present Mordru (the one in the 20th century back then) wasn't the one from the future (he didn't time travel back in time), meaning he was a different version.

Sorry??? In JSA hourman one million told the JSAers there was no part of his time line that was lower in power (which of course was wrong because in the Amethyst series he was). However hector showed his future as clearly the Mordru of the thirtieth century fighting the LoSH when he goaded him at not looking at his fate when he took possession of Nabu's artifacts. In fact the image we saw of that future was a cameo of the pre crisis JLA/JSA/ LoSH cross over (the one where Mordru was searching the Bell, the jar and the Wheel)

^ Are you referring to the JSA Prince of Darkness arc? in which case, yeah, we see Mordru's future, doesn't change the fact that Mordru wasn't the same one in the present, as explained in the same series, in JSA #3:

http://i.imgur.com/iDdig1O.jpg?1

"the Mordru we encountered is NOT from the future"

Which is what my point is.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift

Then all of the statements

Upon rereading the thread i came to the realization that every statement has been backed up by actual showings, apart from the ones concerning Kismet (let me know if i missed something, though)

Kismet doesn't really have much feats, though imo, the implication was pretty clear regarding her status, she is the embodiment of reality (possibly even on a multiversal scale considering she can comprehend them).

Think you read the canon JLA/Avengers crossover, and she was in Eternity's league there.

Also what are the 3 "high level" Lords of Order you have in mind? Im curious to know.

While Odin has been called omnipotent/all powerful more times than i can count, it doesn't take away from the fact that it is a hyperbole .......... or maybe not, considering Marvel has levels of omnipotence/infinity, and has used terms such as "minor omnipotents".

I don't know about you, but a universal embodiment (at the very least) should be beyond Odin's level.

Originally posted by operator616
^ Are you referring to the JSA Prince of Darkness arc? in which case, yeah, we see Mordru's future, doesn't change the fact that Mordru wasn't the same one in the present, as explained in the same series, in JSA #3:

http://i.imgur.com/iDdig1O.jpg?1

"the Mordru we encountered is NOT from the future"

Which is what my point is.

Yes I was referencing Prince of Darkness arc but also the issue and in fact scan you posted in this post.

Originally posted by Beatboks

In JSA hourman one million told the JSAers there was no part of his time line that was lower in power (which of course was wrong because in the Amethyst series he was)

You stated there are two different Mordru's

Originally posted by Operator616
There are actually 2 Mordrus, in JSA, Hourman confirmed that the present Mordru (the one in the 20th century back then) wasn't the one from the future (he didn't time travel back in time), meaning he was a different version.

The very scan you posted says he's not form the future , that "he exists now in our present" it also says that "HE"S NOT DESTINED to menace the Legion for another thousand years". This isn't two different Mordru's at all or a different version . the Mordru who fights Legion is the same one who fights the JSA he's just a 1000 years older and more powerful for having had a 1000 more years to absorb and build power (which is my point).

The Lords of Order can shatter reality. They are above Skyfather it seems. And to think Mordru is going to face these guys. Yikes!

which skyfathers?

These. Main ones like Zeus and Odin.

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The Lords of Order are enough to take this by themselves, they are multiversal in power

completely different level compare to the skyfathers