And I used to buy Hulk comics in the late 80s and 90s when I was a kid Carver. I used to think he could beat everyone. Then these past couple years I started getting back into it. Have purchased the last few issues of The Incredible Hulk. Then he beat up time. Wont be reading Hulk except for his appearances in the Avengers or something special catches my eye
Your problem with Hulk's victories lies mostly in your failure to grasp that hulk is not "merely a brick", he has always been something far more - and more mysterious.
For one thing, he's always been able to grab and rip energy - pure energy, gamma radiation, Sentry's glowing aura and more. This has allowed him to do things like suspend himself in the air and pummel away at Sentry or rip forcefields with his hands.
Another major problem is that you seriously underestimate Hulk's durability and healing factor. If he just stood there and took punishment without reply, Quasar would die of exhaustion long before Hulk's HF began to wane.
This is a character that tore through Nightmare in his own realm, that fought without respite in Hell and has shown a glimpse of what he can do when unrestrained in HOTM.
Same outcome as in the Juggernaut vs Quasar thread. If BFR is off, Quasar cannot win. But Hulk will never touch Quasar (forget about the FTL travel speeds and energy constructs that can momentarily delay Hulk, Quasar can Quantum Jump whenever Hulk gets too close for comfort). So if Quasar plays it smart, the best possible outcome for him is a draw.
If Hulk gets his hands on him..............Hulk wins.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I perfectly understand Hulk wins pretty much every time he fights in comics. But a guy whose sole abilities is a healing factor and punching things really hard. He should not be able to beat people who have a plethoranof other powers and who regularly beat entities Hulk wouldnt begin to fight. Thor, Surfer, Sentry, Quasar. I give Hulk thebwin in a brawl whoever he fights. I give him the win over glads, supes, doomsday. Because at the end of the day their strongest attacks is punching stuff hard. As former military and someone who spars with others on a weekly basis I understand that punching hard is not going to get me a win especially if I happened to be sparring with someone who can punch hard as well and also shoots magic blasts and flies and opens portals and etc. etc.And if someone came up with better reasons as to why Hulk wins other than he hits them. They die. I might be inclined to concede. As it stands though, I firmly believe that Thor, Surfer, Sentry and people like them should beat Hulk and other bricks every time. Without much trouble at all. Unless they brawl like they do in the comics.
Hulk has more abilities than just punching things. That's what you are missing.
Originally posted by janus77
One more point. Comics are not written by former military officers, physicists (theoretical or otherwise), astronomers, engineers etc...They posit a world that only has tangential relation to ours in its 'mechanics', and in Marvel's Universe, Hulk punches out time. Accept it, embrace it, move on ✅.
Don't forget the QZ is featureless and lacking gravity. Without flight, he'd just be drifting there forever.
Originally posted by zopzop
NEVER!!!!!!!!! > 🙁Don't forget the QZ is featureless and lacking gravity. Without flight, he'd just be drifting there forever.
Either Quasar gains such distance that he self-bfrs or he dies ✅.
Seriously though, Hulk's ThunderClaps cover some range and I doubt they would fail to affect Quasar.
I understand that, but in the comics they also fight like idiots. These are forum battles and a little different. And there is no reason to be condescending because I disagree about something. I can "grasp" such complicated ideas thank you very much. I just am not interested in reading about a character who can punch time because he got more angry. So I choose to no longer purchase his solo comic.
Originally posted by ShadowFyreI didn't mean to be condescending, just tired of people whining (and they do, though that is not what you did), that "Hulk is a brick and cannot beat versatility".
I understand that, but in the comics they also fight like idiots. These are forum battles and a little different. And there is no reason to be condescending because I disagree about something. I can "grasp" such complicated ideas thank you very much. I just am not interested in reading about a character who can punch time because he got more angry. So I choose to no longer purchase his solo comic.
There's a point at which it because meaningless to use a character in a vs fight, when you disregard everything - literally every herald fight - in comics regarding that character. To the service of some desired "proper" reality that would not work the way it does in comics.
So sorry that I came across condescending, I just wanted to cut to the point. Hulk isn't a brick and the only way to force an argument that he is, is to basically create a character that bears no actual resemblance to the one established by Marvel.
Originally posted by carver9
Jack of Hearts was a good distance away from Hulk and got speed blitzed. JOH travels at light speed.Lol at any Herald killing Hulk in a few seconds if at all. What's the last Hulk comic you read so that I can't start from there posting fts.
Are you saying Hulk is faster than the speed of light?
Looks like he is changing direction during this scene.
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Mobile%20Uploads/snapshot3_zpsf8f6b1d0.jpg.html
Originally posted by janus77so hulk is more versatile then superman? The hulk has other powers besides strength,healing? Oh didn't Zeus short out his healing factor. Hulk, supes, wolverine, batman, iron man wins fights because they are popular and make their respective companies money. Thor, Ss, bbolt, Dr strange, ghost rider, sentry should beat them each and EVERY TIME and on a forums they do fck debating characters we using logic up in here *****. Now yes hulk will only lose this fight due to bfr quasar do not have the fire power to put hulk down 😄
I didn't mean to be condescending, just tired of people whining (and they do, though that is not what you did), that "Hulk is a brick and cannot beat versatility".There's a point at which it because meaningless to use a character in a vs fight, when you disregard everything - literally every herald fight - in comics regarding that character. To the service of some desired "proper" reality that would not work the way it does in comics.
So sorry that I came across condescending, I just wanted to cut to the point. Hulk isn't a brick and the only way to force an argument that he is, is to basically create a character that bears no actual resemblance to the one established by Marvel.
