Quasar vs. Hulk

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Hulk wins.

Originally posted by carver9
Mighty Adam...

Yes, Hulk has more powers than Healing and Strength.

tell me and don't say thunderclap its still strength based. What powers do hulk have that I haven't seen in my 26 years of living.

Originally posted by ODG
[b]XXVII. HULK ABILITIES

ADAPTIVE EVOLUTION

Last but not least, the Hulk developed a variety of superpower abilities separate and distinct from his super strength. Having emerged from underwater, Banner discovers that his body can develop glands which produce an oxygenated perfluorocarbon emulsion that fills his lungs, equalizes pressure, permits him to breathe fluid, and avoids decompression and nitrogen narcosis. From Incredible Hulk vol.2 #77:
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These adaptive evolutionary abilities are revisited in Incredible Hulk vol.3 #9:
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S.H.I.E.L.D. data notes "that his mutation will somehow alter his body to adapt" even to a zero-atmosphere environment like outer space. From Incredible Hulk vol.2 #90:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkEvolution04v290.jpg

So hanging out on top of a space ship and fighting space pirates without a suit is not beyond his ability. From World War Hulk Prologue: Worldbreaker #1:
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ENERGY PROJECTION

Hulk's body not only feeds on gamma radiation, it emits it. And Hulk's used it in defensive and offensive ways. Here, he "expends his almost limitless energy and power, [and] his temperature rises to an unimaginable degree," melting his icy prison in Incredible Hulk #5:
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An uncontrollable torrent of gamma radiation ends up incinerating bullets in mid-flight in Incredible Hulk #446. The amount of radiation he projects is so lethal, it instantly kills a handler who exposes his suit and even melts a containment unit that would smother a nuclear warhead:
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When he approaches Worldbreaker levels, that gamma radiation can be projected for miles around. He can even direct it as a powerful blast and decimate city-sized spaceships. From World War Hulk #5 and Incredible Hulks #632:
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SUPERNATURAL SENSES

One of the more bizarre powers Hulk has manifested is an ability to see supernatural forms. Dr. Strange notes, "Something in the Hulk's warped nature enables him to see and hear my astral self." From Marvel Feature #1:
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These supernatural senses are revisited in Incredible Hulk #166 and 370:
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In fact, the Hulk is able to concentrate and communicate on the supernatural plane. This astounds Dr. Strange, "I've long known the giant's brutish brain was somehow strangely attuned to my mystic vibrations -- but, now for the first time, the Hulk's mind has called out to me," from Defenders #12:
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This ability may or may not be related to an apparently supernatural sense of direction. When separated from Banner, the Hulk is able to track him down no matter how far away he is. From Incredible Hulk #130:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkSense01130.jpg

Doc Sampson references the supernatural when Hulk revisits the original gamma bombsite, "There's something about this place. Some almost mystical link." From Incredible Hulk #314 and revisited in Incredible Hulk #451 and 460:
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While he tunnels deep underground, Vision notes, "It would appear the Hulk's bearings are correct. His sense of direction borders on the supernatural." From Incredible Hulk #445:
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Superspeed (FTL), jumping/flying, adapting, energy absorption, energy projection, time manipulation, shapeshifting, anger management

The energy release is dope. But if its so powerful why was reed just laying there next to him. I don't see him winning fights with it unless they expand on its capabilities.

Hulk

Same as vs GL

In a comic Hulk would probably win. If Quasar fights smart, the way he did quite often in his own series, he should take a comfortable majority.

BFR to deep space, the middle of the sun, a black hole, or the QZ should be the easiest option. Gamma drain might work, or something along the lines of anti-gamma like the U-Foes used to defeat Hulk. Or use anti-gravitons to make Hulk float in the air. Or blind Hulk and make him cry.

Originally posted by basilisk
In a comic Hulk would probably win. If Quasar fights smart, the way he did quite often in his own series, he should take a comfortable majority.

BFR to deep space, the middle of the sun, a black hole, or the QZ should be the easiest option. Gamma drain might work, or something along the lines of anti-gamma like the U-Foes used to defeat Hulk. Or use anti-gravitons to make Hulk float in the air. Or blind Hulk and make him cry.

Its already been stated. Hulk can jump. Quasar has no chance.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Hulk can jump.

Extremely fast.

And Quasar can fly..extremely fast. I have no problem conceding the fact that Quasar loses due to Janus and Carvers explanation. But Hulk has the power of jumping fast is not gonna cut it.

Depends. By "Extremely fast" what is meant is that Hulk does jump (with accuracy), fast enough to catch JoH, Surfer and any other herald, whilst they're in motion/attempting to evade him.

Also, if you want an idea of a lower bound, to his leaping speeds as Green Scar, just read Planet Hulk. He jumped from Sakaar to its moon, unaided.

That means he was faster than escape velocity on a planet where he was weakened. A planet that was twice the size of Earth and presumably had an increased gravitational force as a result.

His standing jumps are fast enough to catch out heralds, always have been. And his reaction speed, on-panel, is good enough to tag FTL attacks.

EDIT.

It makes perfect sense for Hulk to be a speedster, just that it's never been explicitly stated on-panel.

With the kinds of strength feats he has and the amount of energy he outputs, he should be able to propel himself, via leaps and jumps, at speeds approaching (and maybe exceeding) light.

Im just saying. Going "Hulk can jump" is kind of a lazy explanation.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Im just saying. Going "Hulk can jump" is kind of a lazy explanation.

I think it goes back to the point I made earlier. People don't like the character because they have a preconception that he's just "really, really strong" and "versatility beats strength".

He's much more than strength and he's versatile enough to counter most heralds without trouble.

Also, his durability, strength and hf are being grossly underrated when people put forward the notion that he would get overloaded by Quasar's attacks or that his ThunderClaps wouldn't affect Quasar etc ... It's much simpler just to leave it at "Hulk can jump".

Quasar can moniter the Hulk's capabilities.
Hulk would have a hard time pulling out a surprise.

Originally posted by mighty adam
The energy release is dope. But if its so powerful why was reed just laying there next to him. I don't see him winning fights with it unless they expand on its capabilities.
He was trying immensely hard to rein in his rage, strength and gamma projection in World War Hulk. When he obliterates Arm'Chedon's city-sized ships during Heart of the Monster, he's holding back that much less.

Show me scans saying hulk is ftl running or jumping and I'll build a shrine to him

Originally posted by ODG
Arm'Chedon's city-sized ships
for scale:

smash-force baby 馃槺

Originally posted by ODG
He was trying immensely hard to rein in his rage, strength and gamma projection in World War Hulk. When he obliterates Arm'Chedon's city-sized ships during Heart of the Monster, he's holding back that much less.

Thing is you mightn't have even have noticed them being destroyed at first glance as it seemed almost secondary to the rest of the action, 3 city sized ships (and apparently "the rest of the continent" would've followed) were disintegrated just from his Broly 2.0 burst.