"Thor Odinson... you have betrayed the express command of your king. Through your arrogance and stupidity, you've opened these peaceful realms and innocent lives to the horror and desolation of war! You are unworthy of these realms, you're unworthy of your title, you're unworthy... of the loved ones you have betrayed! I now take from you your power! In the name of my father and his father before, I, Odin Allfather, cast you out!"
Sooo lives, pain, suffering etc are fine and dandy because he can resurrect them?
Don't forget that Goku wasn't sure if Gohan had what it took to get to the next level. The only way it happened was for Cell to kill someone. And not just someone, but an Android who couldn't come back from a wish. If no one was pointlessly killed, they all would have died with this plan.
Or doing the same with Goten. The son he has been apart from for all of his life, who is only trained in fighting techs, not actual bloody combat. Same kid who showed large distress from seeing his mother transfigured and crushed. Again, on barely anything.
His traits match up to many heroes, falls to others.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Sooo lives, pain, suffering etc are fine and dandy because he can resurrect them?Don't forget that Goku wasn't sure if Gohan had what it took to get to the next level. The only way it happened was for Cell to kill someone. And not just someone, but an Android who couldn't come back from a wish. If no one was pointlessly killed, they all would have died with this plan.
Or doing the same with Goten. The son he has been apart from for all of his life, who is only trained in fighting techs, not actual bloody combat. Same kid who showed large distress from seeing his mother transfigured and crushed. Again, on barely anything.
His traits match up to many heroes, falls to others.
But what does the cell fight have anything to do with yielding thors hammer?
If want then we can discuss it...goku gave it all again and sacrificed himself for the earth when cell was going to blow it up.
After death cell comes back and gohan finishes him once and for all.
Let's then talk about Odin telling Thor he was not worthy until he gave it all for guys realm just as Goku did and does...
Originally posted by Silent Master
If sacrificing yourself to protect people was the only requirement, then millions of people would have been able to lift Mjolnir in the movie....yet that wasn't the case.
"Thor Odinson... you have betrayed the express command of your king. Through your arrogance and stupidity, you've opened these peaceful realms and innocent lives to the horror and desolation of war! You are unworthy of these realms, you're unworthy of your title, you're unworthy... of the loved ones you have betrayed! I now take from you your power! In the name of my father and his father before, I, Odin Allfather, cast you out!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCTPyEI0sxw
Gender Unspecified of a Master of Silence...balls deep...
Originally posted by Silent Master
How does that disprove what I said?
Did anyone ever take away Goku's power for being a selfish greedy cruel little boy like Odin did to Thor.
Or did Shenron tell Goku how to become a God because of a Pure Heart?
Did the God of Destruction Come to earth to destroy it and then Goku turns him to good and stops it again..
He is more Worthy.
"Thor Odinson... you have betrayed the express command of your king. Through your arrogance and stupidity, you've opened these peaceful realms and innocent lives to the horror and desolation of war! You are unworthy of these realms, you're unworthy of your title, you're unworthy... of the loved ones you have betrayed! I now take from you your power! In the name of my father and his father before, I, Odin Allfather, cast you out!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCTPyEI0sxw
Now become a master of silence in which you claim to be
Originally posted by Sacred 117
You really haven't proven anything.Edit: ^This was for SM.
I think you're both missing the important part. As I said earlier, Mjolnir being wielded by another is determined by the writing. The best way to determine this would be to decide how likely it is that the story arc would allow for it.
I'm not the one claiming that other people would be worthy, so I don't have anything to prove.
Wasn't there a scene where vidal was in the hospital fighting for life and Gohan was by her side waiting for Goku to bring senzu beans? I remember that Goku took the time to have a large meal at Korrin's BEFORE he went back to give them the beans. Dude can IT and be there and back in an instant, but he just has to eat a huge meal and let people suffer first? Seems a bit....callous.
Also, lol at goku not killing. Goku has killed tons of people.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
If Thor says he's not lifting that hammer then he isn't. The same reason why Superman couldn't do it and Superman has done more than Goku in terms of heroism.
Thor hammer is lifted by his command by Odin's Force/Magic on the hammer of being worthy..obviously Thor is worthy because he is able to lift it..however when Odin deems him not worthy..then he is not able to lift it..only when he finds him worthy again does he get his power back..
If Thor is worthy to re wield the hammer based on giving his life for one of his realms, and Goku does the same thing but even greater so and does it over and over..
He is just as worthy or more worthy then Odin's Son.
Originally posted by emporerpants
Wasn't there a scene where vidal was in the hospital fighting for life and Gohan was by her side waiting for Goku to bring senzu beans? I remember that Goku took the time to have a large meal at Korrin's BEFORE he went back to give them the beans. Dude can IT and be there and back in an instant, but he just has to eat a huge meal and let people suffer first? Seems a bit....callous.Also, lol at goku not killing. Goku has killed tons of people.
The Emperor's Pants have revealed themselves from the Emperors pants.. and what have they revealed? Nothing important...cause they are just pants..
who did Goku kill and how many people has thor killed yet he is still worthy, if you deem to discuss read the thread as we have already went over this topic...pants..
Then why was Superman not allowed to use it? Hulk isn't able to use it, Captain America can though. The hammer has been updated, and I do believe that Thor can give someone permission to use it himself. Also Beta Ray Bill used his hammer and Bill has little to none of the qualifications you state that Goku has so your criteria is wrong.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenixsupes can't because he wears tights.
Then why was Superman not allowed to use it? Hulk isn't able to use it, Captain America can though. The hammer has been updated, and I do believe that Thor can give someone permission to use it himself. Also Beta Ray Bill used his hammer and Bill has little to none of the qualifications you state that Goku has so your criteria is wrong.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Then why was Superman not allowed to use it? Hulk isn't able to use it, Captain America can though. The hammer has been updated, and I do believe that Thor can give someone permission to use it himself. Also Beta Ray Bill used his hammer and Bill has little to none of the qualifications you state that Goku has so your criteria is wrong.
The thread is not about Superman, the thread is not about hulk, the thread is not about Captain America..the thread is about Goku and Thors Hammer..
I wasn't saying that Goku would be unworthy simply because he kills. I was simply pointing out the fact that you made an obviously false claim. Who did Goku kill? Believe Nemebro gave you a short list. You can add the whole red ribbon army to that list as well by the way...damn, that's a lot for someone you claim doesn't kill.
Also, what about the first part of my previous post? Doesn't that seem the least bit selfish on Goku's part?