Deathstroke and Batman vs Captain America and Daredevil

I honestly believe that saying Cap's fighting skill is above (let alone WAY above) Bruce's is outright idiocy. Batman IS the more skilled fighter in any case, with A LOT more feats to back it up, so please stop being silly.

Batman fought Val armor twice. One got owned by Pre-Crisis Val and the second stalemated reboot version, which Val stated that he was surprised how fast he adapted to ariel combat.

[QUOTE=14541364]Originally posted by IHateCoughing
I honestly believe that saying Cap's fighting skill is above (let alone WAY above) Bruce's is outright idiocy. Batman IS the more skilled fighter in any case, with A LOT more feats to back it up, so please stop being silly. [/QUOTEww have a cap vs bat h2h thread if you truly feel that way, skill for each side is shown in depth.

Originally posted by IHateCoughing
Mastering more martial arts (yeah, right, as if he has any actual feats to prove that as opposed to only statements) by no means makes you the more skilled fighter in any case. Batman's skill in that regard is FAR easier to prove. Steve would only win in a h2h bout because of his enhancements, just like Deathstroke.

Sorry.

Sorry? Dude, I am not the one who equated skills with martial arts, your fellow Bat fiends are the ones saying that. Read the thread for more information. Secondly, Cap's serum does not only enhance the body, it enhances his mind for optimal combat. He definitely has better skills than Batman. There is absolutely nothing Batman could do that Cap couldn't do better.

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When cap can stalemate karate kid twice, call me. Saying cap is skilled is one thing, saying he is absolutely better is retarded.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
[QUOTE=14541364]Originally posted by IHateCoughing
[B]I honestly believe that saying Cap's fighting skill is above (let alone WAY above) Bruce's is outright idiocy. Batman IS the more skilled fighter in any case, with A LOT more feats to back it up, so please stop being silly. [/QUOTEww have a cap vs bat h2h thread if you truly feel that way, skill for each side is shown in depth. [/B]

Actually, it's usually the batside that calls PIS on most of Cap's feats, that and they love to bring up how handbooks only specifically mention boxing and judo.

It's both sides that do it so everyone is guilty.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Actually, it's usually the batside that calls PIS on most of Cap's feats, that and they love to bring up how handbooks only specifically mention boxing and judo.

In the last several years, I've seen them call PIS on everything from Cap beating US Agent to him using pressure points to stun Namor.

Over the years when recently.

Originally posted by Silent Master
In the last several years, I've seen them call PIS on everything from Cap beating US Agent to him using pressure points to stun Namor.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Over the years don't mean much Snake-eyes. Though Cap beating walker under Austen was just bad writing. I've seen you do this to Batman though.

What Batman feats have I called PIS?

Originally posted by Silent Master
What Batman feats have I called PIS?

I don't reall saying that was PIS, do you have a quote?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not admissible for forum fights, so not sure why you brought it up?

Split between Cap/Bats. Which is to say, they'll have a loooong fight. Can't see Slade falling to DD, though. So he can help.

Lol at the number of martial arts each guy has mastered. That means bupkiss in a comic, especially at the levels these 4 operate.

Oh yeah, you're soooo surprised I brought it up. I'm not surprised you would try run from the scene I mentioned. Sorry, but you can't simply discount it because it's unkind to your position. Wayne knows the deal.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Oh yeah, you're soooo surprised I brought it up. I'm not surprised you would try run from the scene I mentioned. Sorry, but you can't simply discount it because it's unkind to your position. Wayne knows the deal.

No, I can discount it because of this

No Non-canon Sources
Non-canon sources are invalid for evidence. With rare exceptions, comics not in continuity such as Elseworlds, What Ifs, or alternate universes are not used for evidence in debates of a particular mainstream character.

A canon source is one that is regarded as being 'in continuity'. In the example of Star Trek; instances from the series and movies can be used, but books are definitely out. Comic book crossovers are usually unusable as they ignore common sense most of the time (DC vs. Marvel is certainly unusable in some cases in our debates!).

This includes JLA/Avengers. Canon or not, people just aren't going to agree on it in most cases. Besides, there should be plenty of other comics with which to make your point.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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When cap can stalemate karate kid twice, call me. Saying cap is skilled is one thing, saying he is absolutely better is retarded.

This is a dumb comment. If Cap was in the DC universe you would undoubtedly see Cap have impressive feats against Val.

Shut up caps conscience shouldn't you be looking for that non existent feat of Nightwing beating deathstroke you claimed.

Cap solos. He recently held the weight of 1/3 of a star. And no sold an attack that put Hulk on his knees. He is coming out of the closet as a legit Skyfather.