Originally posted by Odekahn
But at least the other Avengers PUT UP A FIGHT.It was obvious who is the superior between the two. You can call it a plot weapon if you want, but I call it a loss and a bad one at that.
And Hulk did not grin.
When did they put up a fight minus the sneak attacks?
If someone would have saved Hulk, he would have put up a fight.
If Hulk was able to wake up from being one shot koed, he would have put up a fight.
If Hulk had a dead opponent in front of him, he would have put up a fight.
All of the Avengers got stomped. None of them put up a fight without circumstances. Hulk didn't have those circumstances.
The ones that made it back to the battle didn't do anything worth mentioning.
Your argument is lame and everyone and their grandmomma admitted Hulk grinned. It doesn't matter though...you are the guy that didn't even notice Juggernaut running/charging at WWH (lol).
Originally posted by Odekahn
Here's what happened next...
I know what happened next. The same thing that happened in the beginning...Hulk got taken out by a plot device. Hyperion nearly got killed "if it wasn't for Cap".
Binary got one shotted, TWICE.
Thor got ridiculed.
Cap got taken out twice.
The Avengers got stomped.
In a one on one "fist" fight, WWHulk would battle his way up to World Breaker levels.
World Breaker would kick the crap out of Thanos.
That said-
Mark Waid's sad-ass incarnation of Hulk is NOT WWHulk.
This current version is closer to 80's Savage Hulk at best.
Which is why bringing up this recent battle with Thanos is pointless.
Because Thanos did not face "World War Hulk" in Infinity #6.
Thanos faced "Indestructible Hulk" in Infinity #6.
These are two separate incarnations of Hulk.
And they are not even remotely close in power level.
Waid's Hulk = Roughly on par with Fixit.
WWHulk = Roughly on par with Maestro/Classic Juggernaut.
WB Hulk = Blows even "Herald" Class Power out of the water.
Think on this:
Thanos whooped Surfer with a handful of punches.
Arm'Cheddon is on par with (and holds a win over) Surfer.
WB Hulk turned Arm'Cheddon into a Dust Mote with next to no effort.
Thanos has never been forced to "brawl" with a being of World Breaker's power level.
Blast? Sure. Teleport? Sure. Brawl? No.
Thanos is not unbeatable in a fist fight.
Bottom Line-
Thanos mud-stomps the piece of crap "current Hulk" that Waid is writing.
But- Thanos gets mud-stomped by the Avatar of Rage that Pak wrote.
This is the way of things. Embrace it.
Arm'cheddon on par with Silver Surfer??? 😂
I mean yes, he is good at manipulating energy, but your statement indicates that Arm'cheddon has also the speed, durability, strength and basically the versatility of Silver Surfer, which he does not.
also 😂 at "blowing" herald class, I mean yes the power is respectable but nothing on the terms to put to shame Heralds under different writers.
but to each his own, I guess 🙂
Originally posted by carver9
LOL...Waid Hulk is far above Fixit and is more powerful than Savage Hulk.Sorry bro.
My ass.
Savage Hulk has some of the greatest power feats in history.
A pissed off Savage Hulk would kick the crap out of current Hulk.
The truth is that Waid's Hulk is a sad, pathetic shadow of that former glory.
Even Grey Hulk has better showings that Waid Hulk.
Don't live on false dreams.
Current Hulk's powerless power armor should read "Jobber Hulk" on the side.
Originally posted by jaxthejester
My ass.Savage Hulk has some of the greatest power feats in history.
A pissed off Savage Hulk would kick the crap out of current Hulk.
The truth is that Waid's Hulk is a sad, pathetic shadow of that former glory.
Even Grey Hulk has better showings that Waid Hulk.Don't live on false dreams.
Current Hulk's powerless power armor should read "Jobber Hulk" on the side.
Savage Hulk fts isn't anything close to being as consistent as Current Hulk fts. Savage was powerful but current Hulk walk around strength is at high Herald plus. Dont know what you are basing this off of but if Infinity got you that riled up, then you might not want to look at some of the stuff Savage Hulk went through, like being choked out by a snake...koed by Doc Sampson, dropped by Ironman...dropped by Namor twice.
When it comes to consistency and power fts, Waid Hulk stomps Savage.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Arm'cheddon on par with Silver Surfer??? 😂I mean yes, he is good at manipulating energy, but your statement indicates that Arm'cheddon has also the speed, durability, strength and basically the versatility of Silver Surfer, which he does not.
also 😂 at "blowing" herald class, I mean yes the power is respectable but nothing on the terms to put to shame Heralds under different writers.
but to each his own, I guess 🙂
Arm'cheddon defeated Surfer and Merged Hulk at the same time. This alone proves that he is either on or above Surfer level.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Arm'cheddon on par with Silver Surfer??? 😂I mean yes, he is good at manipulating energy, but your statement indicates that Arm'cheddon has also the speed, durability, strength and basically the versatility of Silver Surfer, which he does not.
also 😂 at "blowing" herald class, I mean yes the power is respectable but nothing on the terms to put to shame Heralds under different writers.
but to each his own, I guess 🙂
He holds a win over Surfer. All stats accounted for. He still took him down.
And WB Hulk dusted Arm'Cheddon in HotM without even needing to punch him.
(And prior to that, he ripped his arm off and blasted his face half off with it.)
Add that WWHulk (pre-WB) kicked Sentry's ass; who in turn kicked the crap out of Terrax.
You do the math.
Terrax = Herald.
Surfer = Herald.
Sentry kicked the crap out of Terrax.
Arm'cheddon took down Surfer.
WWHulk dropped Sentry.
WB Hulk dropped Arm'Cheddon.
HotM Level WB Hulk "incinerated" Arm'cheddon, Bi-Beast, Wendigo, and a world of demons without even needing to throw a punch.
The power levels are more than evident.
WWHulk > Sentry > Terrax (by a frigg'n land slide)
WB Hulk > Arm'Cheddon > Surfer (by right of victory)
HotM WB Hulk = Cosmic Force of Nature.
Pak put ink to paper that even OF Thor would not have faired better than Sentry against WWHulk.
And Thor has a long history of kicking Surfer's ass.
WB was a transcendent beast.
Thanos was afraid of fist fighting Champion.
He sure as hell isn't winning a fist fight against WB.
Truth.
