Because it's based solely on information the player has access to?
Like for a second, just a second, pretend that this is a video game. The journal has and always had been a framing device for BioWare; hell, it's usually written by the player. The fact that it speaks about game mechanics doesn't change that it's built around and for the player.
It being built for and around the player doesn't make in a subjective in-universe source, anymore than it does the SWTORE, it makes it relevant and informative. 😬
Bearing in mind of course, that the player is only given access to this information by reading the entries. 🙄
EDIT: Heck as a recall one codex entry actually had spoilers for the plot.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
It being built for and around the player doesn't make in a subjective in-universe source, anymore than it does the SWTORE, it makes it relevant and informative. 😬
Bearing in mind of course, that the player is only given access to this information by reading the entries. 🙄
EDIT: Heck as a recall one codex entry actually had spoilers for the plot.
Originally posted by FreshestSliceSo the SWTORE is an inaccurate source too now? 😬
SWTORE is also in-universe. How does that help your argument?
No. It's kind of like the player hears something, and then it goes into the codex.Except not everything heard in the codex is told to the player, certainly not game mechanics. 👆
Not that it makes any sense for the protag to record this stuff in some codex...
Then you recalled wrong because these codex entries open up right after the plot points happen, including, surprise surprise, this one.No I didn't and I remember the entry now, being the one on Nox Drayen. Which tells you he was frozen in carbonite before the reveal.
Not that Valkorion ever tells you he is an ancient Sith entity. mmm
Originally posted by Beniboybling
So the SWTORE is an inaccurate source too now? 😬
Except not everything heard in the codex is told to the player, certainly not game mechanics. 👆
Not that it makes any sense for the protag to record this stuff in some codex..
.No I didn't and I remember the entry now, being the one on Nox Drayen. Which tells you he was frozen in carbonite before the reveal.
Not that Valkorion ever tells you he is an ancient Sith entity. mmm
Originally posted by FreshestSliceExcept when you want it to be. mmm
If you say so. I certainly didn't. Hell, I didn't even say the codex was completely inaccurate.
That's a pretty retarded retorte. Given that game mechanics don't actually, you know, exist.Exactly, so how could that be in an in-universe source? 😕
Exactly right, the player should just remember random events forever and BioWare should not try to keep track of it. 👆
😐 Except that doesn't unlock until you unfreeze him...As I said it unlocks before the reveal, unless it's been changed, it was kinda dumb.
No, the entire backstory for the goddamn game tells you that when you install it. Seriously.You appear to be confusing the player with the protag...
Anyway this conversation is getting boring, and I hardly see the point considering whether or not it is in-universe, doesn't change the fact it is objective, and doesn't necessarily contradict what Valkorion is saying.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Exactly... if husks (of flesh/skin) remained clearly they were not reduced to ashes i.e. incinerated 👆
I think I have misspoken when I said Nyriss turned others into charred husks, she incinerated them, and she wanted to do the same thing to the Jedi Exile and Scourge until Revan screwed her plans. More likely Sidious turned those Dark Side Prophets into charred husks, because their skeletons were still there.
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
1. When was this written?2. It says that "his power may be unparaleled", which it has already been surpassed, e.g:Vitiate, Nihilus, Exar Kun.
"may be" already gave free way to "it is", when you take in consideration Vitiate's showings for example.
1. 2015
2. If his power had definitely been surpassed, they wouldn't have phrased it the way they did.
3. See number 2 and, from the same source:
Palpatine was declared the most powerful Sith of all {again} in Legends earlier this year in the prologue to the Empire Volume 1 Omnibus.
This book is apparently canon and apparently regards the Legends feats of ancient Jedi and Sith ambiguously.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
1. 20152. If his power had definitely been surpassed, they wouldn't have phrased it the way they did.
3. See number 2 and, from the same source:
Palpatine was declared the most powerful Sith of all {again} in Legends earlier this year in the prologue to the Empire Volume 1 Omnibus.
This book is apparently canon and apparently regards the Legends feats of ancient Jedi and Sith ambiguously.
Wait, you said this is 2015 which puts Sidious the strongest Sith in Disney canon, which he is. lol And it was said that Legends Sith Lords are nothing compared to the Disney canon regarding Darth Sidious, because they don't exist. Of course that states the truth, but here we speak about Legends, not "new canon" which makes Sidious the strongest Sith in the entire existence...
The Omnibus releases specify the time a story takes place in for each story arc.
One final question, who wrote this "article"? Is he/she aware of our most powerful popular Sith Lords's feats?(Vitiate, Nihilus)
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
The concept of a Exar Kun and Nhililus being above Sidious is outlandish. They're so many sources that puts him above the two that it isn't even worth discussion. Vitiate has a bit more wiggle room, but he's still inferior to Palpatine as far as I'm concerned.
Nihilus, Vitiate and Exar Kun are above him in showings and raw strength in the Force, I don't care if Palpatine is "the most powerful Sith Lord" lol, as long as he doesn't have the necessarly showings to compete [with Vitiate or Nihilus, barely could compete with Exar Kun], he isn't.
About Kun, he was depicted in a poorly comic book, and he hadn't all of his proper showings in comparision with Darth Sidious, the main evil of the Star Wars Saga, Kun simply had a short appearance. Don't forget that in a source, Odan Urr and Vodo Siosk Baas were compared to Yoda and Windu, Odan Urr being Yoda, and Vodo Siosk Baas being Windu. Kun at least killed them both, he didn't need to fake for Ulic-Qel-Droma to save him.
Now Exar Kun would definitely beat Darth Sidious in a match(remember that while Sidious was a 7ls master, he didn't hold that kind of performance because was too busy for politics and all that manipulation, he resorted to Force powers more and more in a fight, all of his fights(Windu, Yoda, Maul and Oppres), so even if he was a consummate 7ls master, his skills were vastly degraded), but, but, but, Exar Kun would be extremely damaged, he would probably barely hold on his feet.
If you go and analyze Vitiate's feats you will see why he surpasses Sidious. At least Vitiate didn't need to live in clones, he could live as a spirit, Sidious couldn't, and Vitiate was able to bend Jedi alike Sith to his will just at his whims.
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Don't forget that in a source, Odan Urr and Vodo Siosk Baas were compared to Yoda and Windu, Odan Urr being Yoda, and Vodo Siosk Baas being Windu.
Stop taking that quote out of context.
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
At least Vitiate didn't need to live in clones, he could live as a spirit, Sidious couldn't, and Vitiate was able to bend Jedi alike Sith to his will just at his whims.
lol.