Why???

Started by Raisen19 pages

I'm drinking right now. delightfully sinful

As originally stated moderation.

yes dear brother

This is the basic principle

but

Allah says (Ye who believe intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination, of Satan's handiwork: eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper.

- Satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you, with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of God, and from prayer: will ye not then abstain?) 90-91].
Allah

the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him forbade drinking wine
even small amounts , this is confirmed by the verses and hadiths by a thousand and four hundred years

But some doctors were claiming that a little wine can be a cure and heal , and some have claimed that a little of it animates Fouad , what says the latest study on the subject of wine?

In a study conducted by Dr Sarah Lewis of the Department of Social Medicine , University of Bristol found a strong relationship between alcohol intake and between high blood pressure , and said that drinking alcohol affects blood pressure much more than we thought previously. Has conducted a study on a specific segment of people who are suffering from their body 's inability to remove the effects of alcohol after eating . But that does not mean that the damage is limited to these , but every day reveals a new scientists about the damage alcohol .

The number of researchers confirmed that a man , even if eating a small amount of wine it would negatively affect the health and gradually lead to a rise in blood pressure , which causes sudden death of its owner , if not get rid of the final alcohol abuse .

Dr. Sarah says :

This study shows that alcohol consumption may increase blood pressure to a very large border more than we thought and even if a person drinking alcohol in small quantities .

The meaning is quite apparent
Small amount in their effect, such as the large amount .if a person drinking wine , even a small amount of it and then leave it remain in his body, the amount of alcohol does not disappear only after tens of days,! ! ! Glory to God ! If the Holy Prophet wants us to be every cell of our body pure , pure ,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljTWf60PxiQ

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eninn, have you ever had beer?

He's pious, he don't drink that devil juice.

yes never, thank you

So at what point did you come to conclude drinking was morally wrong yourself without outside viewpoints being forced on you? I haven't seen a single original argument from you yet, so your level of actual standing in this discussion hovers around "parrot for others' ideals".

I just realized he doesn't know how to use the quote function.

Originally posted by Digi
Beer is wonderful.

Not when you're an alcoholic. It wrecks families and sometimes, others at a gathering.

Originally posted by wilco
Not when you're an alcoholic. It wrecks families and sometimes, others at a gathering.

Yes, I have seen it. But that is a disease having an effect, not the beer.

Some people can't drink alcohol, and for them, beer is a bad thing. But that doesn't mean beer is bad for everyone.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, I have seen it. But that is a disease having an effect, not the beer.

Some people can't drink alcohol, and for them, beer is a bad thing. But that doesn't mean beer is bad for everyone.

Defiantly! My mother is an alcoholic and many of my family.

In Egyptian times, the slaves got beer rashes (they had to make it) barley and crap. So, for 2400 years it has been common. Cannabis also.

Originally posted by wilco
Defiantly!
Lawl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hBsQQvFYl8&feature=player_embedded
Islam, raise the value of the humans

And kept it from destruction
See
As a result of abuse and drinking

wine-

cause loss of concentration, loss of consciousness
Any person can commit murder, robbery and rape
This is terrible

Wine was forbidden corrupt
Thank God for the blessing of Islam

Narrated By 'Aisha: Allah's Apostle was asked about Al-Bit. He said, "All drinks that intoxicate are unlawful (to drink.)

Sahih al-Bukhary, The Book of Drinks, Hadith Number: 5644, Narrated by: Lady Aisha Bint-Abu-Bakr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYRgtPDV7nM

Why, you ask?

Originally posted by eninn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hBsQQvFYl8&feature=player_embedded
Islam, raise the value of the humans

And kept it from destruction
See
As a result of abuse and drinking

wine-

cause loss of concentration, loss of consciousness
Any person can commit murder, robbery and rape
This is terrible

Wine was forbidden corrupt
Thank God for the blessing of Islam

Narrated By 'Aisha: Allah's Apostle was asked about Al-Bit. He said, "All drinks that intoxicate are unlawful (to drink.)

Sahih al-Bukhary, The Book of Drinks, Hadith Number: 5644, Narrated by: Lady Aisha Bint-Abu-Bakr

I've never robbed or raped anyone, and I have been drunk.

I think you are just wrong.

These individual cases, and this is something that is not guaranteed

see here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nls4YC5OpTE

Acute symptoms include temporary drinking alcohol :

1 - state of trance and diastole are
Where a person appears in the form of non - decent.

2 - changing the language and way of speech and pronunciation , words and letters that
Because of the imbalance that occurs in the process of cooperation between the muscle
Private minute to speak , toning and sounds output leads
So as to prolong the pronunciation of some characters and the speed of others
Speech seems farcical .

3 - fluctuates sense the person toward others of goodwill
To a feeling of overload plus runners suddenly and without reasonable grounds
The bursting into tears for no reason.

4 - the incompatibility of the movement of walking .. Visser drunken
Influence the cerebellum, which is responsible for the balance.

5 - visual hallucinations and a defect in vision device

6 - severe vomiting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9iDzfRGKLo

I always knew vomitting and typos made me a worse person. For shame.

Originally posted by wilco
Not when you're an alcoholic. It wrecks families and sometimes, others at a gathering.

And clearly my quote was saying that alcoholism is a wonderful thing. Obviously I have no concept of of moderation or context in my thoughts on the subject.

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it, then by all means they should abstain from it.
1.) We abstain from it because Allaah commanded us to. He explained one of the benefits of abstaining from it (the bad > the good) and since I know He is the All-Knowing & knows better than all of the world's greatest scientists put together, I have faith that the bad is greater than the good. If it is scientifically proven one day, I won't be surprised.

2.) Islaam also teaches us to try not to eat/drink to full capacity. And it also teaches us to not kill ourselves (which would include stuffing ourselves with anything to the point of death).

Al-Miqdam ibn Mad reported: I heard the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him, say, There is no vessel which the son of Adam can fill more evil than his stomach, for it is sufficient for him to take a few mouthfuls in order to straighten his back, but if he must, then fill one-third with food, one-third with drink, and one-third with breath. [Ibn Maajah; classed as Saheeh]

O you who believe! Eat not up your property among yourselves unjustly except it be a trade amongst you, by mutual consent. And do not kill yourselves (nor kill one another). Surely, Allāh is Most Merciful to you. (An-Nisa 4:29)

3) Alcoholism is a big deal in societies where drinking alcohol (especially publicly) is common. I'm glad that it's not an endemic in most Muslim communities.

in Russia the male life expectancy is 16 years less than females and that discrepancy is linked to alcohol use among males.

Men rarely make it to 60 in Russia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG_txt4y3X8

Originally posted by eninn
...since I know He is the All-Knowing & knows better than all of the world's greatest scientists put together...

This is laughable.

The Creator created us as free people in the world and also has placed prophets sent by the exhortation to the people on earth and had to lay solid. The creator has said: The man who seeks God will my satisfaction embark and the man who seeks the satisfaction of the subject matter, his own path. But! Every man will be on the day of resurrection to life and the people will return to their master groups. That is the day of judgment which man gets to hear what she has brought forth, and what they would have been apparent. Whoever has wronged will on that day his promised punishment, and the one who has done well (surrender to God) will reward fully received. Wait why we wait with you. The time will be soon! A man lives only a fraction of a second when the actual duration of the beginning of creation to the end of creation would calculate. Therefore, awareness and research necessary and folly,

arrogance and envy pure waste of time. For this reason I am looking for the satisfaction of God, because we are not aimlessly on earth are placed. We have an agent and that is that we encourage the good and good acts, so we promised paradise our goal will obtain. We have a choice between good and evil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljTWf60PxiQ

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Alcoholic drinks are the only poison that is licensed in many countries. However, Islam took a clear attitude towards alcoholic drinks more than 1400 years ago. Islam prohibits such drinks. Any drink that causes drunkenness is prohibited in Islam regardless of the matter it is made from and regardless of the quantity. According to Islam, if too much of a drink causes drunkenness, then any small quantity of this drink is prohibited, because all alcoholics start with small quantities, and then they become the slaves of alcohol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtySbhT__7Q

Then sugar-water should be outlawed. Because if you drink enough sugar-water you will get a kind of drunkenness called a sugar high. So, eninn, do you eat sugar?

The Devil's Dandruff? Absolutely not.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
The Devil's Dandruff? Absolutely not.

How many things in small quantity are safe, but if abused would be bad?