Delta1938
True King of House of El
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Dont read many DC comics. Many=none. But Martian Manhunter used to be on par with Supes correct? Plus telepathy, intangibility, transformation? Going by these powersets I would give the fight to him. But from what I have seen. DC has gone a long way to pretty much shit on all of their characters besides superman
I have read much New 52, but your comment seems to be referring to New Earth continuity.
No, Martian Manhunter never really was on-par with Superman in things like strength, speed and durability. There's too many examples for me to list, but a few I'll name include the last JLA storyline before INFINITE CRISIS, Despero wrecked J'Onn, Superman put-up a far better fight by comparison. And Superman was fighting Dominus in synthetic Kryptonite radiation levels so high, they'd be deadly to J'Onn and Wonder Woman for an hour. And three examples of Superman looking better(sometimes far better) against Doomsday than J'Onn did, as well as the Supergirl/Dark Kara stint. On speed, J'Onn has straight-up said Superman is faster than him, although it was a general statement and not specific(but considering Superman's better flight, reaction time, time perception a combat/operational speed feats, we'd assume he's faster in every way).
Then when it comes to telepathy, Superman has subconsciously forced J'Onn out of his head while being examined, J'Onn stated Superman can basically block him out, and more powerful telepaths(Brainiac, an amped Hector Hammad, Manchester Black and Despero) have all been forced-out or failed in their attempts to control over telepathically incapacitate Superman.
Superman can also overcome invisibility with his senses, and he's shown he can use his Heat Vision to attack intangible opponents. Superman can even turn intangible himself, although J'Onn would likely have greater extremes he can go to and he can use this as a weapon. But basically J'Onn being on-par or more powerful than Superman is mostly due to a combination of the assumption that they're physical peers and J'Onn's more exotic powers put him above, and a few, often out of context, examples where J'Onn looks better than Superman against common opponents. While ignoring the larger number where Superman looks better.
