Black Adam VS Terrax: TO THE DEATH!

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
You realize your logic is just as easily flipped against Terrax? What top tiers has Terrax beaten? Terrax has like one decent win for that matter...

But I find it funny how you defend Terrax's losses as PIS, yet you turn around and call Black Adam's wins PIS. I guess we could use this logic for Adam if he actually had as many lows as Terrax though...

She was done for the time being.

Also this:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Black%20Adam/BlackAdam08.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Black%20Adam/BlackAdam09.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Black%20Adam/BlackAdam10.jpg

Adam runs through him

That's actually accurate when you think about who the characters are meant to be. Terrax is a villian with few redeamable qualities.....hell I can't think of one. BA is suppose to be an anti-hero fanboys dream and he is written as such. PIS-PIS Anyone, Terrax makes the Namor ripoff wish he could go back in time and kill his mother so he would never be born.

Lol adam would beat any galactus herald, even surfer.

matter manip doesnt kill him

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
That's actually accurate when you think about who the characters are meant to be. Terrax is a villian with few redeamable qualities.....hell I can't think of one. BA is suppose to be an anti-hero fanboys dream and he is written as such. PIS-PIS Anyone, Terrax makes the Namor ripoff wish he could go back in time and kill his mother so he would never be born.

And he's killed probably more people on panel than Terrax has appearances. He's much more of a villain than Terrax, and most of his good feats involve him fighting heroes.

But yes, all of Black Adam's good feats are PIS. Just like all of Terrax's good feats are PIS. Right?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
You realize your logic is just as easily flipped against Terrax? What top tiers has Terrax beaten? Terrax has like one decent win for that matter...

But I find it funny how you defend Terrax's losses as PIS, yet you turn around and call Black Adam's wins PIS. I guess we could use this logic for Adam if he actually had as many lows as Terrax though...

She was done for the time being.

Also this:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Black%20Adam/BlackAdam08.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Black%20Adam/BlackAdam09.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Black%20Adam/BlackAdam10.jpg

Adam runs through him

I'm not saying Adam's high wins are PIS to trollish. I'm saying his high "wins" against notable Team Busters like Amazo and Eclipso are PIS. Eclipso can mimic any power to ANY LEVEL, how the xxxx are you just gonna rip his head off? That's a textbook example of PIS.

Eclipso is an aspect of God and opposite of the Spectre, if beating It is as simple as snapping It's neck, we got problems.

His other fights are what they are. Nice but nothing a non jobbing Terrax couldn't do if in his place.

And the only loss of Terrax I'd write off as PIS would be vs Ganymede.

The Gamora fight speaks for itself. He was 'possessed' and fighting the control while hoping Gamora put him down. It's right there on panel.

Terrax losing to Morg or the SS isn't PIS. It's a solid Mid Herald losing against High Heralds.

Terrax's axe was one of two things that did any kind of cosmetic damage vs Tyrant (the other being Galactus), it's sliced Surfer's board in two like a hot knife through butter, it's busted a damn planet. If that thing connects with BA, he's done.

A correction :

Eclipso can mimic any power to ANY LEVEL, how the xxxx are you just gonna rip his head off? That's a textbook example of PIS.

Originally posted by zopzop
No, you're not getting me.

I'm not saying Adam's high wins are PIS to trollish. I'm saying his high "wins" against notable Team Busters like Amazo and Eclipso are PIS. Eclipso can mimic any power to ANY LEVEL, how the xxxx are you just gonna rip his head off? That's a textbook example of PIS.

Eclipso is an aspect of God and opposite of the Spectre, if beating It is as simple as snapping It's neck, we got problems.

His other fights are what they are. Nice but nothing a non jobbing Terrax couldn't do if in his place.

And the only loss of Terrax I'd write off as PIS would be vs Ganymede.

The Gamora fight speaks for itself. He was 'possessed' and fighting the control while hoping Gamora put him down. It's right there on panel.

Terrax losing to Morg or the SS isn't PIS. It's a solid Mid Herald losing against High Heralds.

Terrax's axe was one of two things that did any kind of cosmetic damage vs Tyrant (the other being Galactus), it's sliced Surfer's board in two like a hot knife through butter, it's busted a damn planet. If that thing connects with BA, he's done.

Probably by ripping his head off.
Eclipso wasn't a Spectre level being in that story.

A "non jobbing" Terrax could replicate them? Name some appearances that even begin to defend this. Alan Scott would absolutely rape Terrax on his own.

Seems in line with Gany's level, and Terrax's appearance against Gamora.

Then Terrax should have completely stopped fighting her. His body was still fighting her and he had no control. And considering how absolutely terrible Terrax fights, she basically beat Terrax.

Terrax got like two shotted by Thor. When Surfer is serious he completely wrecks Terrax. He only does decent against Morg because it becomes an axe fight at that point in time. The Sentry "fight" was hilarious.

Also I'd go back and look but considering how little proof you want to offer up, I'll just state it off the top of my mind, but didn't he get like two punched against Morg in that Tyrant scuffle?

Too bad Terrax's axe almost never does hit anyone. He's whacked Nova, didn't cause any damage. He hit Morg in the neck and only managed to destroy the mind control device. And I'm pretty sure that wasn't 616 Terrax or 616 Surfer. But funny how you want to rule off high feats from Black Adam, yet you're more than prepared to bring up a high feat in him doing superficial damage against Tyrant.
But anyway I just showed you Black Adam ramming through Spectre. If that connects with Terrax, he's done.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Really? Because it seems you want all the feats from Black Adam yet you don't want to supply anything to support Terrax. What top tiers has Terrax beaten Zop? Or am I not getting you?

Probably by ripping his head off.
Eclipso wasn't a Spectre level being in that story.

A "non jobbing" Terrax could replicate them? Name some appearances that even begin to defend this. Alan Scott would absolutely rape Terrax on his own.

Seems in line with Gany's level, and Terrax's appearance against Gamora.

Then Terrax should have completely stopped fighting her. His body was still fighting her and he had no control. And considering how absolutely terrible Terrax fights, she basically beat Terrax.

Terrax got like two shotted by Thor. When Surfer is serious he completely wrecks Terrax. He only does decent against Morg because it becomes an axe fight at that point in time. The Sentry "fight" was hilarious.

Too bad Terrax's axe almost never does hit anyone. He's whacked Nova, didn't cause any damage. He hit Morg in the neck and only managed to destroy the mind control device. And I'm pretty sure that wasn't 616 Terrax or 616 Surfer. But funny how you want to rule off high feats from Black Adam, yet you're more than prepared to bring up a high feat in him doing superficial damage against Tyrant.
But anyway I just showed you Black Adam ramming through Spectre. If that connects with Terrax, he's done.

When did Thor two shot Terrax?

Surfer is a high herald, Terrax is a mid herald. It's not hard to see why he would wreck Terrax. It should also be noted when they did fight, Terrax was at a disadvantage (he was recently rezzed, his body wasn't his own and he was in the middle of fighting the NW and the FF equipped with anti-Terrax weapons by Reed).

And what of BA ramming through Spectre? It did nothing. Terrax could have done the same. I mean Batman has affected him with a kick.

Originally posted by zopzop
Fact is Terrax was mindcontrolled and fighting it's influence vs Gamora.

When did Thor two shot Terrax?

Surfer is a high herald, Terrax is a mid herald. It's not hard to see why he would wreck Terrax. It should also be noted when they did fight, Terrax was at a disadvantage (he was recently rezzed, his body wasn't his own and he was in the middle of fighting the NW and the FF equipped with anti-Terrax weapons by Reed).

And what of BA ramming through Spectre? It did nothing. Terrax could have done the same. I mean Batman has affected him with a kick.

Then his durability should have gotten him almost knocked out.

In a comic.

Terrax also got knocked out by Dazzler when she was being shielded by Galactus. Didn't he get beaten by Seekers too in Annihilation?

His body stayed that way until now though, so that's irrelevant. And the weapons didn't work. He got terrified when he seen Surfer. There's also the part where Surfer initially killed him.

No he couldn't. The only people off the top of my mind who have damaged Spectre like that are King of Tears, Shazam and Black Adam. Cut that shit out where you keep making baseless claims backed by nothing.
Also, I could probably show Batman having better feats than Terrax so I'd tread carefully.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
You going to start naming feats that suggest Terrax can win or what?

Then his durability should have gotten him almost knocked out.

In a comic.

Terrax also got knocked out by Dazzler when she was being shielded by Galactus. Didn't he get beaten by Seekers too in Annihilation?

His body stayed that way until now though, so that's irrelevant. And the weapons didn't work. He got terrified when he seen Surfer. There's also the part where Surfer initially killed him.

No he couldn't. The only people off the top of my mind who have damaged Spectre like that are King of Tears, Shazam and Black Adam. Cut that shit out where you keep making baseless claims backed by nothing.
Also, I could probably show Batman having better feats than Terrax so I'd tread carefully.

And Dazzler has some damn good highs. That was one of them. The other was absorbing BB's scream.

And show me BA or Batman busting a planet with one blow or lifting something the size of Manhattan Island and hurtling it into orbit.

Originally posted by zopzop

Terrax would destroy Jonn. He'd take the majority vs Alan too. Terrax is easily as strong as Adam and his power output sh|ts all over anything BA has done on panel.

Good for him. Like the Amazo "fight" it was an obvious low showing for Eclipso.

That was a horrible showing for the JSA. PG cutting loose with her HV actually melted the gold on Adam's costume! omg! :yawn:

Dude, let's try it a different way.

If Superman was possessed/mind controlled/body snatched, he was aware he was compromised, he wanted to lose so badly that he even wanted to be put down, and he was actively fighting the effect of the possession/mind control/body snatching. Then he gets beaten by a character, let's call her Character X, CLEARLY below him power wise while in this state. Would you count this is a legitimate loss for Superman? [/B]

Originally posted by zopzop
Whatever dude. Batman's kicked "affected" the Spectre like BA's assault did, ie not at all.

And Dazzler has some damn good highs. That was one of them. The other was absorbing BB's scream.

And show me BA or Batman busting a planet with one blow or lifting something the size of Manhattan Island and hurtling it into orbit.

Fact is BA tore apart Spectre's head. Batman moved Spectre's head a little when Spectre was mocking him. Fact is only two other people have damaged Spectre in that way.

Black Bolt's voice was used as pure sound in that issue. Which she controls. She didn't have BB's voice against Terrax.

Inanimate objects? Well, in that case of fights, I could probably show you Batman beating someone higher than Terrax has ever beat though.

And Black Adam beating a Skyfather level character so...

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
By supermans own words

Black Adam stronger than Martian Manhunter and Wonder woman. unless you can see then physically restraining superman like this ^^

Lol at restraining.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Terrax is an anti hero sometimes. Black Adam is an anti hero sometimes.

And he's killed probably more people on panel than Terrax has appearances. He's much more of a villain than Terrax, and most of his good feats involve him fighting heroes.

But yes, all of Black Adam's good feats are PIS. Just like all of Terrax's good feats are PIS. Right?

Sorry, I must have missed the WWIII Terrax story in Marvel. ;-)

Come on man! You simply can't compare the two in terms of exposure/popularity. Something tells me we won't see BA resurrected and killed again by maggots.

Yeah, Cap and Adam are peers of superman. Its one of the oldest rivalries in the comics after all. Does superman has showings where he looks stronger than them? Of course he does, its his schtick but he isn't so much above them that they would lose to ****ing terrax.

Originally posted by Bentley

People are kind of lowballing Terrax -he's one of the few underrated jobbers in the forums-, but I fully understand when people say he's crushed. He has some sad showings Under his belt.

When I was reading through the old Rom: Space Knight series, I felt kind of bad for him when he didn't even get defeated by Rom, but by two no account Space Knights with one trick to their name. (One guy had a javelin, the other guy had a giant fist) 😄

IMO, he's never looked better then his fight with Morg.. Even though he lost, he just looked so credible against him, that you could believe he only lost by a hair.

Haha, really? Post the scans for that bro.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, really? Post the scans for that bro.

Also regarding the Dazzler loss, she was amped by Galactus AND Terrax was weakened because most of his power was spent keeping himself alive in a super massive black hole for weeks/months:
http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/dazzler_8-11.shtml

Originally posted by zopzop
He was fighting an entire group of Space Knights before the last three finished the job :
http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/rom_26-27.shtml

Also regarding the Dazzler loss, she was amped by Galactus AND Terrax was weakened because most of his power was spent keeping himself alive in a super massive black hole for weeks/months:
http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/dazzler_8-11.shtml

I fail to see where he looked so bad. Terrax would cleave BAs ears before Namor's lawsuit against him is concluded. The BA jockage continues to amaze me.

Classic Black Adam would beat the ever loving shit out of Terrax, and that's not even close.

Terrax is a clown, the Rhino of the heralds of Galactus.

Originally posted by zopzop
Batman's kicked "affected" the Spectre like BA's assault did, ie not at all.

Im assuming you're referring to this scene:

http://i.imgur.com/meAg4Ue.jpg

the next page reveals to us that batman achieved this only because the Spectre let him do it (to make him feel better):

http://i.imgur.com/CakLTbb.jpg?1

Originally posted by zopzop

Eclipso is an aspect of God and opposite of the Spectre, if beating It is as simple as snapping It's neck, we got problems.

Eclipso's role is the same as the Spectre's, being God's wrath, Spectre was Eclipso's replacement not opposite. And Eclipso, for the most of his appearances is not even remotely operating at full power level, because it got shattered a long time ago.

Don't really care about the Terrax/BA battle, just wanted to clarify this.