Originally posted by Supra
blind faith is blind faith its the hope and faith of something greater then this shit we call a world..I died and been to heaven and saw God.I know he is real. I know no longer only have to believe..I know
It's probably better to focus on what good we can do here, rather than hope that there's some place better and we get a free pass if we just believe.
Food for thought.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
It's probably better to focus on what good we can do here, rather than hope that there's some place better and we get a free pass if we just believe.Food for thought.
Our Years are numbered on this earth however your years are not in heaven in the realm eternal with God
God is un definable and as complex as God but as simple as Love.
Originally posted by SupraYour statement about "numbered years", "eternal heaven with God" and that grammatical mess about a complex, simplistic God/love was phrased in a way that suggested you were stating them as fact. Were you stating them as fact? If you were then that means you know something. But until you back up this knowledge of yours, these claims about God and "eternal time" in heaven, then there is no reason for anyone to believe what you say, much less consider your words on the topic valuable. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
I dont have to prove anything to you I do not know you
Make claims-expect people to expect proof of them. Simple as that. If it's just a matter of reorganizing your thoughts and words in to something more coherent and legible, then that's another matter entirely.
Originally posted by KostabotThat both A.) implies there even is an intention bestowed from without, and B.) flat out states that love of the self and others is impossible without said intention, and thus without said bestower. How have come to such an unfounded, baseless conclusion? Either way, it's self-defeating: your sentence fragment at the end seems to be the description of the very "intended purpose" that you mentioned, is it not? But if part of our purpose is to love, and we can only love if we find purpose... see the problem in that circular logic?
And in order to love ourselves we have to discover our true and intended purpose. To love, create, and experience. 🙂
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Your statement about "numbered years", "eternal heaven with God" and that grammatical mess about a complex, simplistic God/love was phrased in a way that suggested you were stating them as fact. Were you stating them as fact? If you were then that means you know something. But until you back up this knowledge of yours, these claims about God and "eternal time" in heaven, then there is no reason for anyone to believe what you say, much less consider your words on the topic valuable. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.Make claims-expect people to expect proof of them. Simple as that. If it's just a matter of reorganizing your thoughts and words in to something more coherent and legible, then that's another matter entirely.
That both A.) implies there even is an intention bestowed from without, and B.) flat out states that love of the self and others is impossible without said intention, and thus without said bestower. How have come to such an unfounded, baseless conclusion? Either way, it's self-defeating: your sentence fragment at the end seems to be the description of the very "intended purpose" that you mentioned, is it not? But if part of our purpose is to love, and we can only love if we find purpose... see the problem in that circular logic?
Nothing is a fact other then My God Lives I dont have to explain God to you, God is God. He as as complex is God and as simple as Love.
My proof is I have died twice on this earth and been to heaven and to hell and returned to tell the world about what I saw
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
That both A.) implies there even is an intention bestowed from without, and B.) flat out states that love of the self and others is impossible without said intention, and thus without said bestower. How have come to such an unfounded, baseless conclusion? Either way, it's self-defeating: your sentence fragment at the end seems to be the description of the very "intended purpose" that you mentioned, is it not? But if part of our purpose is to love, and we can only love if we find purpose... see the problem in that circular logic? [/B]
A) Yes. There is. The intention is to discover that we are one with God. How many lifetimes that takes is another question. Yes, I do believe that journey takes many lifetimes.
B) I see no problem in it. My purpose is to discover love in its purest form. One that exists outside tue ego love. I didnt say one couldnt feel love without realising ones purpose. One can only do "good" ro their best understanding what "good" is. One can only love, to the best that they know how to. As long as you are doing those things, yoi are on the tight path.
Everyone in this thread is on yhe right path. Everyone on earth, is on the right path. The path, however, is countless lifetimes long.
In the words of Bill Hicks " we are all one concuousnes experiencing its self sunlbjectively"... you are me, and I am you... different lifetimes being lived at the samw time, by the same sol (God) through the eyes of different vessels (people, animals etc). All this is complex beyond words? But as simple as love its self.
How do I know this? Because I do. How can I prove it? It's not my job to prove anything to anyone, they have to discover it for them selves. As I said, if this inetersts you beyond just trying to find holes in my logic, then read conversations with god. It wont take long, but it will help you understand my perspective (even if you still don't accept it after doing so).