Originally posted by Lord Lucien
How do you know? Stop and keep reading before you jump to your answer. Don't just say you "know because you know". That's an empty statement. If you want to edit your statements concerning God/love/heaven etc. to "I believe", then go right ahead, I'll argue you no further. I'm a Weak Atheist--I do not believe there's a God or gods, but I will most certainly, absolutely, never say that I know that there is no God or gods. I'm agnostic for my lack of knowledge, and atheist for my lack of belief. Do you see the difference? A committed Christian can be equally agnostic. In fact (actual fact), when concerning the issue of gods, everyone is agnostic (no knowledge), regardless of the intensity of their faith (their beliefs).So before you reiterate your supposed possession of unexplainable "knowledge", reconsider what it is that you know, and what it is that you believe. I can respect your belief, but anyone claiming to know something then refuse to prove its existence, or dodge their burden of proof altogether is not worthy of respect, consideration, or time.
See above. Make a claim to knowledge, then it is incontrovertibly your job to prove it. If there are holes in your logic, then it's your duty to fill them after we address them. If you refuse to fill them, acknowledge their existence, or dismiss their importance, then no one of a skeptical mind, myself included, has reason to listen your words or heed your suggestions. If you want us to understand your perspective, then learn to appreciate the criteria which we abide by.
Im not asking for respect, consideration, or validation. My beliefs and the things that I know apply to me, perhaps to me only. I have made that point in my previous posts (that may have been in the NanoTech theag in the GDF though) It makes no difference to me if you accept them, or completely dismiss them because you dont like my wording. I dont feel burdened with the duty to prove anything I claim to know or believe. Im simply sharing my thoughts. What you do with them is none of my business. What you think of me is also none of my business. I respect what you know and/or believe, and I don't ask you to quantify or qualify any of it for me, whether it is parallel to my beliefs or not. Criteria? Im not in class. Im having a casual concerstaion about personal experience.
Originally posted by Kostabot
Im not asking for respect, consideration, or validation. My beliefs and the things that I know apply to me, perhaps to me only. I have made that point in my previous posts (that may have been in the NanoTech theag in the GDF though) It makes no difference to me if you accept them, or completely dismiss them because you dont like my wording. I dont feel burdened with the duty to prove anything I claim to know or believe. Im simply sharing my thoughts. What you do with them is none of my business. What you think of me is also none of my business. I respect what you know and/or believe, and I don't ask you to quantify or qualify any of it for me, whether it is parallel to my beliefs or not. Criteria? Im not in class. Im having a casual concerstaion about personal experience.
Flawless..with class..
Now run along Lord L of lies you have lost all credibility here
Originally posted by Supra
If you have never been in hell and seen death then how do you speak as if you have?If you have never died from battle and been to heaven as a few of my friends and I have..how can you speak of a world you have never seen?
Heaven and hell are not places you go when you die. Heaven and hell are states of mind.
...and I would be careful about posting personal information on the internet.
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Marist Brothers?
Yeah I went to a Christian Brothers school myself.
Got six straps of the cane for looking at my shoes during assembly.Now if no one's ever be caned, then imagine being a 13 yr old child & have a full grown adult, with all his might & anger swing a 2inch thick rubber strap across your palms, six times.
Years later, the head master & 4 Christian Brothers would be arrested for systematic child sexual abuse.
The day kids couldn't get caned and strapped because it just came in, the state performance rules. But, not the boarding kids like myself. If we spoke to another boarder (a mate) I go the cane, him too. At 9pm it was nights out and you never spoke to anyway .....or otherwise, you got a caning. I got caned probably - 16 times .....6 or 12 depends on the brother (priest)
Originally posted by OnenessTell that to the VP.
BTW "quayle" isn't even a word.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Tell that to the VP.
Damn spellchecker. 😮