Originally posted by ScreamPaste
As far as the universe OoT Link was erased from is concerned, the effect is exactly the same.I'm not sure where you're going with this, Moo. Darkrai held back Palkia and Dialga in the anime, but the anime versions are not as powerful as the game versions. If they were this would be a stomp, the level of power they sit at in the anime, and Arceus along with them, is just far below what the Moon Princess can manage.
Then that universe should have consulted with the Darkrai movie's universe, because the effect may be the same, but the methods are entirely different. At no point did Dialga manipulate time nor did Palkia manipulate space to erase anything from existence. The erasings were passive consequences of their battle.
And no, they are not far below. Arceus has never been shown at full power, in game or anime. He's been missing something in every appearance.
Full demonstration of the abilities they are stated to have via Pokedex.
Movie representations underplay their vast destructive capability, but is still faithful to their stated levels of ability. The trio still couldn't manage to defeat Arceus, only buy time, which fits with his status. And he still isn't even at full strength. It just all makes sense if you ask me.
So the ability to manipulate time and space, well yeah, but in the anime they never show this kind of power on the level necessary to move say, a star, or even a planet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70Nnur4497s&t=51m41s
This is the extent of Arceus power in the anime, in fact he was going to die after this, but was saved. Granted that's not a small meteor.
It falls perfectly in line with city busting+ Palkia and Dialga, though, which is the amount of damage they seemed capable of, and that would be the amount of power Darkrai held off.
Luna is simply far above the scale anime pokes work on.
Spoiler:
My god horse > your god horse. Huehuehuehue.
You are still ignoring a hell of a lot. Both Palkia and Dialga displayed trans-dimensional travel capabilities, in addition to Palkia's barrier holding out for however long against Arceus in the Arceus movie. And once again the most important factor, the fact that they erased matter from existence as a passive consequence of their battle, the very definition of casually. We're still not talking the use of time or space to do it, we're talking pure energy overload and assault on a specific point completely erasing it from existence. Like how a nuke would wipe a city off of the map, leaving no trace, these two wiped something from reality.
Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeI'm really not ignoring anything, I watched the movie, yeah, Palkia's shield managed to block an attack, but Palkia spent the rest of the battle getting #rekt.
You are still ignoring a hell of a lot. Both Palkia and Dialga displayed trans-dimensional travel capabilities, in addition to Palkia's barrier holding out for however long against Arceus in the Arceus movie. And once again the most important factor, the fact that they erased matter from existence as a passive consequence of their battle, the very definition of casually. We're still not talking the use of time or space to do it, we're talking pure energy overload and assault on a specific point completely erasing it from existence. Like how a nuke would wipe a city off of the map, leaving no trace, these two wiped something from reality.
Beings whose primary attacks are time and space related causing things to disappear is not at all different from what I'd expect. Roar of Time and Spacial Rend literally manipulate time and space. Darkrai's shield doesn't have the feats necessary to stand up to Luna's sheer firepower, or the firepower himself to fight back effectively.
His only saving grace against her is that Luna in character isn't exactly filled with blood lust, and will probably find him intriguing. If she gets angry though, Arceus help you.