Sentry vs. Odin, Zeus,Mangog, Surtur

Originally posted by h1a8
Creating werewolf sealed the deal for me.
I don't believe in the logic that Big shows greater power. For example, I believe busting Mjolnir to pieces shows more power than destroying a mountain in one shot.
And doing something on a multiversal scale doesn't mean one can one shot a universe, galaxy, or solar system.

He created a wereworf in the palm of his hands. Loki's created life from nothing, too.

The Odin Force can and has created pocket universes. Soooo, yeah, not seeing how Dark Avengers Sentry/Molecule Man were > Skyfather level.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He dispersed Silver Age Mangog.

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He also recently casually warped the universal destruction scale energies of Surtur, who is a skyfather being.

Both of those feats shit on matter manipulating a high herald.

He dispersed Mangog due to the nature of Mangog himself. It was a plot win. Otherwise Odin would have done it in the very beginning instead of running away.

Manipulating someone elses energy has no bearing of power output. Doom has manipulated Beyonder's energies and also Galactus

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He created a wereworf in the palm of his hands. Loki's created life from nothing, too.

The Odin Force can and has created pocket universes. Soooo, yeah, not seeing how Dark Avengers Sentry/Molecule Man were > Skyfather level.

I don't think any skyfather can CASUALLY separate the atoms of a high herald level being. Do you believe they can do this Jake?

Originally posted by h1a8
He dispersed Mangog due to the nature of Mangog himself. It was a plot win. Otherwise Odin would have done it in the very beginning instead of running away.

Manipulating someone elses energy has no bearing of power output. Doom has manipulated Beyonder's energies and also Galactus

And Mangog is >>>> high herald. And it required Odin damn near killing himself to. That feat is more impressive than dispersing a high herald.

Well, Doom is the greatest being in comics, period, but that's not the topic at hand. And yes, manipulating energy of the scale of Surtur's on the fly that Odin did is more impressive than blowing up a high herald.

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't think any skyfather can CASUALLY separate the atoms of a high herald level being. Do you believe they can do this Jake?

Depends on the high herald and depends on the skyfather. Considering skyfathers can destroy items such as Captain America's shield and Mjolnir, I definitely don't think a high herald being is out of their capabilities.

I don't think anything Owen did was above skyfather level in Dark Avengers. Nor do I think anything Sentry did was above skyfather level in that same arc.

Originally posted by h1a8
If you are using force to pull them apart then yes. What do you suggest?

So he was using force and not molecule manipulation?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Depends on the high herald and depends on the skyfather. Considering skyfathers can destroy items such as Captain America's shield and Mjolnir, I definitely don't think a high herald being is out of their capabilities.

I don't think anything Owen did was above skyfather level in Dark Avengers. Nor do I think anything Sentry did was above skyfather level in that same arc.

Of course skyfathers can kill high heralds. But separating their atoms completely is many magnitudes greater. I can seriously damage some dinner plates. But I don't have 0.001% of the power and control to separate their atoms.

If a skyfather can CASUALLY separate a high herald's atoms then you are right, Nothing Sentry or MM did was above skyfather.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So he was using force and not molecule manipulation?

Who is he?

Originally posted by h1a8
Of course skyfathers can kill high heralds. But separating their atoms completely is many magnitudes greater. I can seriously damage some dinner plates. But I don't have 0.001% of the power and control to separate their atoms.

You can't use magic, or stop time, or any of the shit skyfathers can do so what's your point?

Serious thread?

Originally posted by Board Walker
Oh Molecule Man only depowered because he was in the presence of Sentry

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Oh yeah, and all I've seen from you pack of morons is how smart you are and how I'm wrong for placing Sentry where he is and how he is low trans or high trans and how those who think Sentry runs this are all retards and blah blah blah.

Im talking to you Reflasssh.

So far none of you supposed experts have come up with a SINGLE argument as to how he would lose. All you're saying is 'He loses because they are skyfathers'. What the hell does that even mean? Have any of you ever even had to write a paper for school? Do you just write 'It is because it is?'

If you can mention one way they get rid of him permanently I will gladly concede.

^ This team of Skyfather-level characters has more collective power than Loki+Avengers+Young Avengers amped by Norn Stones. Far more.

Originally posted by RockofAges
Oh yeah, and all I've seen from you pack of morons is how smart you are and how I'm wrong for placing Sentry where he is and how he is low trans or high trans and how those who think Sentry runs this are all retards and blah blah blah.

Im talking to you Reflasssh.

So far none of you supposed experts have come up with a SINGLE argument as to how he would lose. All you're saying is 'He loses because they are skyfathers'. What the hell does that even mean? Have any of you ever even had to write a paper for school? Do you just write 'It is because it is?'

If you can mention one way they get rid of him permanently I will gladly concede.

Odin crushes his pathetic mind with telepathy of among the highest order?
Odin rocks the multiverse with galaxy busting power, thrashing Bob in the process?
Odin easily warps any sort of energy Sentry throws his way with a gesture?
Odin overloads Sentry with enough power to revert him back to Bob?

Mangog just beats the ever loving phuck out of him?

There's more, but yeah, those reasons stand out.

Originally posted by h1a8
Who is he?

Try and keep up.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Odin crushes his pathetic mind with telepathy of among the highest order?
Odin rocks the multiverse with galaxy busting power, thrashing Bob in the process?
Odin easily warps any sort of energy Sentry throws his way with a gesture?
Odin overloads Sentry with enough power to revert him back to Bob?

Mangog just beats the ever loving phuck out of him?

There's more, but yeah, those reasons stand out.

There is also the board favorite "time stop".

And didn't Sentry take more of that whackass serum that gave him his powers right before Siege, anyway, effectively making that depiction of Sentry/Void among the most powerful we've seen?

If a hacked hellicarrier and Norn Stones can do a number on Bob in that state, WTF do people think the likes of Odin alone are going to do to him? Let alone with the kind of back up he has here?

I'm gonna start cracking down on people making spite threads because of certain fans.