TP Link vs. Dragonborn

In his travels, Link comes across Skyrim, where he learns of the legendary hero of Skyrim. He learns that this hero is the greatest warrior and mage in the world, and can kill opponents with just his voice. Link has the Master Sword, the Hyian Shield, the Gale Boomerang, every single type of arrow in any Zelda game, and magic armor.

The Dragonborn hears that an elf with exceptional skills entered his homeland. The Dragonborn is a High Elf, with LVL 100 stats for everything with every perk available. He knows every word of power possible to learn in the game. He is in fully improved set of Daedric Armor. He wields a fully improved Mace of Molag Bal and has mastered all the spells.

Takes place on the Throat of the World. Who wins and why?

Does DB even have distinguishable feats? Most RPGs like this don't have definitive portrayals, so it😖 difficult to get a read on their true capabilities. mmm

Shouldn't this be in the Games Vs?

Dragonborn, easily.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Does DB even have distinguishable feats? Most RPGs like this don't have definitive portrayals, so it😖 difficult to get a read on their true capabilities. mmm

Level 100 stats in everything, with every perk available, is a pretty good indication of what the Dragonborn can do. Anybody who knows the effects of the shouts knows the extent of the Dragonborn's power. To be honest, I realized that this would be a massive stomp in the Dragonborn's favor just as the time ran out to delete the thread.

lol. If the Dragonborn wins I gaurantee you it's not because of in game stats and shouts. The Dragonborn as we play him in game would be a mook in Zelda.

I'm fairly certain there's some tie in to the lore somewhere that will make him way more powerful than he seemed in game, though.

The Dragonborn defeated a guy who apparently can literally eat the world (and has done so before).

That doesn't strike me as a combat feat.

Originally posted by jmoul
Level 100 stats in everything, with every perk available, is a pretty good indication of what the Dragonborn can do. Anybody who knows the effects of the shouts knows the extent of the Dragonborn's power. To be honest, I realized that this would be a massive stomp in the Dragonborn's favor just as the time ran out to delete the thread.

Stats are a poor argument in hypothetical battles such as this, and ultimately meaningless without a measurable feat to support them. I'm sure there are some though.

That said, I'm not yet convinced he wins this.

The Dragonborn is pretty weaksauce. At least he/she appears that way in the game.

A Dragonborn is capable of producing magical pulses by shouting in the dragon language. He/she is capable of creating a devastating storm with a shout, become invulnerable, breath fire/ice, freeze an opponent solid, launch an opponent back a few feet (Fus Ro Dah), summon spectral warriors, and even detect a life force, and summon his own dragon to fight for him, just to name a few.

Combat feats, while sneaking around, with max sneak, a Dragonborn will turn invisible, bow attacks can paralyze when drawn-back completely, his one-handed attacks can stagger opponents, or kill them through their shield. His armor absorbs damn near all damage, especially with the improved, enchanted armor which also improves damage dealt from other combat skills. With the Mace of Molag Bal, the Dragonborn deals damage, not only to Link's health, but he also drains Link's energy, and ensnares his soul to a soul gem.

Magic is another world of combat feats in itself: Restoration magic allows the Dragonborn to create areas where he/she gets healed and no enemies can enter. Destruction, the Dragonborn uses electricity, fire, and ice spells, which can affect an entire area, such as a blizzard or fire storm and he can create walls of fire, ice or lightning, which damage those who cross through the wall. His Alteration magic allows the Dragonborn to enhance strength of armor and cause paralysis. Conjuration allows him/her to summon beasts, spectral assassins, and elementals. Illusion magic allows the Dragonborn to make the enemy flee out of fear, or fight against an opponent they know they will lose against.

So these are the combat abilities of the Dragonborn, and this doesn't even cover half of what he can do. Not exactly "weaksauce"

Not exactly feats, either.

Most of those are perks and other gameplay abilities. Some certainly are usable, but there's no real way to tell how powerful they are as their damage and is gameplay based, or otherwise reliant on the game's mechanics.

A Dragonborn is capable of producing magical pulses by shouting in the dragon language.

Combat feats, while sneaking around, with max sneak, a Dragonborn will turn invisible, bow attacks can paralyze when drawn-back completely, his one-handed attacks can stagger opponents, or kill them through their shield. His armor absorbs damn near all damage, especially with the improved, enchanted armor which also improves damage dealt from other combat skills. With the Mace of Molag Bal, the Dragonborn deals damage, not only to Link's health, but he also drains Link's energy, and ensnares his soul to a soul gem.

Magic is another world of combat feats in itself: Restoration magic allows the Dragonborn to create areas where he/she gets healed and no enemies can enter.

Destruction, the Dragonborn uses electricity, fire, and ice spells, which can affect an entire area, such as a blizzard or fire storm and he can create walls of fire, ice or lightning, which damage those who cross through the wall.

His Alteration magic allows the Dragonborn to enhance strength of armor and cause paralysis.

The dragonborn can't conjure any legitimate threats to my recollection but I never finished 100 conjuration, as for illusion: Fear, on the holder of the Triforce of Courage?

Spoiler:
Also Fi says get off my rock.

At the end of the day, what we see in game is pretty meh, but again, I'm sure there's something ridiculous in the lore that will rustle my jimmies like redguards cutting atoms in half and causing nuclear explosions.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Fi doesn't care about these, Link shoosts Odahviing.

What works v.s. mooks is entirely different v.s. what works on Link. Fi doesn't care about that mace, and he has to actually hit Link with it.

Fi smashes the barrier.

Fi smashes and dispels said obstacles, reflects projectiles.

Fi disregards such things.

The dragonborn can't conjure any legitimate threats to my recollection but I never finished 100 conjuration, as for illusion: Fear, on the holder of the Triforce of Courage?

Spoiler:
Also Fi says get off my rock.

At the end of the day, what we see in game is pretty meh, but again, I'm sure there's something ridiculous in the lore that will rustle my jimmies like redguards cutting atoms in half and causing nuclear explosions.

With fire storm and blizzard, all the Dragonborn has to do is cast, as these are area of effect spells, and they have taken down an Elder Dragon and Blood Dragon at the same time on my best file on Skyrim (I realize this means nothing to this thread, as this is only on my own file, not a universal for Dragonborns in the vast world of Skyrim players).

I remember how in the Eragon vs. Link thread I mentioned how Eragon could bring lightening down on Link, to which I got a gif showing Link returning a bolt of lightening right back to Ganondorf. My question now is, would Link be able to do the same when 50 lightning bolts strike within 2 seconds of each other, all focused directly on him, or damn near him? Because with the Storm Call Shout, that is exactly what the Dragonborn can do to Link, followed closely by a blast of either a Unrelenting Force shout or an Ice Form Shout (freezes and prevents movement for a few seconds). My point here is that, while Fi is immensely powerful, the Dragonborn has far too many abilities and tricks in his repertoire for Fi to be able to counter every single one of them.

The Dragonborn would also have ranged spells to slow Link down, and drain Fi, because for all the power of Fi, it isn't limitless.

Lastly, the triforce is not even up for consideration in this thread, it's too damn powerful and I prefer to keep my threads as evenly matched as possible.

My question now is, would Link be able to do the same when 50 lightning bolts strike within 2 seconds of each other,

Here's what we need to know to answer it:

1. How long does it take Link to deflect an attack.
2. Can this amount of time fit into 2 seconds?

So I'm going to get doing that once I reply to the rest of your post.

Because with the Storm Call Shout, that is exactly what the Dragonborn can do to Link, followed closely by a blast of either a Unrelenting Force shout or an Ice Form Shout (freezes and prevents movement for a few seconds). My point here is that, while Fi is immensely powerful, the Dragonborn has far too many abilities and tricks in his repertoire for Fi to be able to counter every single one of them

The Dragonborn would also have ranged spells to slow Link down, and drain Fi, because for all the power of Fi, it isn't limitless.

Drain Fi? On what grounds? uhuh

Let's use a reasonable estimate of Ganon's combat speed.

1. Link's arrows move upwards of 6 805.8 m/s
2. Ganondorf gives no ****s about this shit and can casually deflect them point blank but let's assume a range of 5 meters. This means it takes him 0.00014693 of a second to put his blade in the path of said arrow, backhand it, or flip over it.

So, an action in combat for Ganondorf is about 0.00014693 of a second. Can he handle 50 actions over two seconds? In actuality he can handle... Jesus Christ.

13 611.9 actions in 2 seconds. mmm Ladies and Gentlement, Ganondorf and Link's low-end combat speed.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Let's use a reasonable estimate of Ganon's combat speed.

1. Link's arrows move upwards of 6 805.8 m/s
2. Ganondorf gives no ****s about this shit and can casually deflect them point blank but let's assume a range of 5 meters. This means it takes him 0.00014693 of a second to put his blade in the path of said arrow, backhand it, or flip over it.

So, an action in combat for Ganondorf is about 0.00014693 of a second. Can he handle 50 actions over two seconds? In actuality he can handle... Jesus Christ.

13 611.9 actions in 2 seconds. mmm Ladies and Gentlement, Ganondorf and Link's low-end combat speed.

🤘🤘🤘

Dovahkiin's Thu'um is a rival to Alduin's, whose Thu'um could reshape landmasses in the days of ye olde.

By draining Fi, I mean wear down Link's resistance to magical attacks, because it isn't limitless, despite Fi being as powerful as it is. I'm trying to be reasonable, since there really is no way for Link to protect himself from all of the damage from the Dovahkiin's attacks forever.

That combat speed is impressive, but I'm curious, where did you get those numbers from?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
lol. If the Dragonborn wins I gaurantee you it's not because of in game stats and shouts. The Dragonborn as we play him in game would be a mook in Zelda.

I'm fairly certain there's some tie in to the lore somewhere that will make him way more powerful than he seemed in game, though.

There is.

Miraak, the first Dragonborn, and another Dragon Priest, apparently ripped the island of Solstheim from the Skyrim mainland as a side effect of their fight. The Dragonborn is superior to them.
Hermaeus Mora has also stated when he is at half power, the Dragonborn is a peer to him.