Originally posted by JBL
You are incredibly lost. Was there a star there before the explosion? No idiot. Now answer the question.. is superman stronger than Hulk and Hyperion combined? Lol
I'm not incredibly lost, you're just incredibly stupid. Or outright lying to save face, which actually still makes you incredibly stupid. The readings said the explosion was of almost nova proportions, therefore almost the same energy output as a star going nova. This is why I gave the link, my illiterate child. To show the difference between what Reed compared it to and an actual supernova.
Otherwise your "there was no star" strawman, and it is a strawman because I never claimed there was a star, merely made the mistake of assuming you could understand, just leaves it open to whatever you want to say. There was no star so my comparison of a real nova and a supernova is irrelevant? K then the explosion Gladiator tanked and absorbed was equivalent to a firecracker making this non feat even more trash compared to a supernova. Great job convincing me Gladiator is weak AF. 👆
Originally posted by JBL
LMAO. So you didn't make that claim or support it??
Ya know, how about you show me?
Originally posted by JBL
I was telling that illiterate troll that his fabled Mageddon feat got debunked just like that laughable phoney multiverse destroying punch.
Show it being debunked. It has MORE credibility than Gladiator's firecracker feat being passed off for him surviving a supernova, which even taking Reed's statement at face value instead of it being a non feat since there was no star, is still so far below a supernova your straw grasping "he easily absorbed it so he was far above " is laughable.
Originally posted by JBL
Pretty sure he jumped on the bandwagon and argured for it.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Ya know, how about you show me?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How was Mageddon debunked
Aside from that. It's power also is stated able to *at least* destroy half of the galaxy
Combined with what ABHI posted, it seems to imply the potent of Mageddon's anti-sun was greater than half of the galaxy
Originally posted by abhilegend
BTW, Superman tanked and absorbed a hypernova too.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/newreply.php?s=&action=newreply&postid=16393363
Originally posted by Delta1938No one can be this dumb. It was an explosion that would have annihilated half the solar system out near Pluto. Gladiator overpowered it and contained it. A watcher said that gladiator was strong enough to collapse entire Stars, he's also stated to be able to rip a black hole apart with his bare hands. Now tell me what happens with a supernova.Smh
I'm not incredibly lost, you're just incredibly stupid. Or outright lying to save face, which actually still makes you incredibly stupid. The readings said the explosion was of almost nova proportions, therefore almost the same energy output as a star going nova. This is why I gave the link, my illiterate child. To show the difference between what Reed compared it to and an actual supernova.Otherwise your "there was no star" strawman, and it is a strawman because I never claimed there was a star, merely made the mistake of assuming you could understand, just leaves it open to whatever you want to say. There was no star so my comparison of a real nova and a supernova is irrelevant? K then the explosion Gladiator tanked and absorbed was equivalent to a firecracker making this non feat even more trash compared to a supernova. Great job convincing me Gladiator is weak AF. 👆
Ya know, how about you show me?
Show it being debunked. It has MORE credibility than Gladiator's firecracker feat being passed off for him surviving a supernova, which even taking Reed's statement at face value instead of it being a non feat since there was no star, is still so far below a supernova your straw grasping "he easily absorbed it so he was far above " is laughable.
Originally posted by JBL
No one can be this dumb. It was an explosion that would have annihilated half the solar system out near Pluto. Gladiator overpowered it and contained it. A watcher said that gladiator was strong enough to collapse entire Stars, he's also stated to be able to rip a black hole apart with his bare hands. Now tell me what happens with a supernova.Smh
No, you're even dumber than you THINK I am. So someone can be even dumber than you're accusing me of.
Prove it would have destroyed half the solar system. Reed's statement is all you have and no more valid than what we have for Mageddon, except we have more than one individual to support what Mageddon would have done. Concessions accepted, liar.
You again drop the "there was no star" strawman because a star going nova was the started comparison, therefore you fail again.
And you're not posting proof of me "jumping on the bandwagon." Do you have anything, or did you LIE like always?
Originally posted by Delta1938So you accept reed saying near Nova proportion but not his statement about it destroying half the solar system? Lol.
No, you're even dumber than you THINK I am. So someone can be even dumber than you're accusing me of.Prove it would have destroyed half the solar system. Reed's statement is all you have and no more valid than what we have for Mageddon, except we have more than one individual to support what Mageddon would have done. Concessions accepted, liar.
You again drop the "there was no star" strawman because a star going nova was the started comparison, therefore you fail again.
And you're not posting proof of me "jumping on the bandwagon." Do you have anything, or did you LIE like always?
And speaking of statements......Zod and other two kryptonians( sorry I don't bother to remember their names. Zod is the one only matters) capable of destroying entire universes. And Superman survived and even still conscious after a prolonged fight with them.....
From Superman (1987) Annual 10. Again, sorry readcomiconline doesn't allow you to save images so I have to screeshot
Originally posted by JBL
So you accept reed saying near Nova proportion but not his statement about it destroying half the solar system? Lol.
Not what I said at all my illiterate child. 😆
You only have Reed's statements. Which is no more valid than Mageddon. Therefore you're a hypocrite. At the same time, there not being a star is irrelevant because of stated above reasons. Which you're either pretending don't exist because you know you're ****ed by them, or you genuinely don't understand.
Still waiting for proof I said about the multiversal punch. Which on top of that, I never brought up in here until responding to you. And I wouldn't anyways if I sided on what you claim was debunked. You know why? It's not a durability feat you dumbass. 😆
Still waiting for your answer to DS on what evidence you've seen to make you think Mageddon was debunked.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
And speaking of statements......Zod and other two kryptonians( sorry I don't bother to remember their names. Zod is the one only matters) capable of destroying entire universes. And Superman survived and even still conscious after a prolonged fight with them.....From Superman (1987) Annual 10. Again, sorry readcomiconline doesn't allow you to save images so I have to screeshot
Faora(or however it's spelled) and Quex-Ul. Pocketverse Kryptonians who were effectively Pre-CRISIS, or at least Pre-CRISIS levels since Pocketverse Superboy was used in place of Pre-CRISIS Superboy for the Legion after Byrne's reboot. And Johns simultaneously restored Superman being Superboy and in the Legion, but the Pocketverse still happened, because comics.
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Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Again, sorry readcomiconline doesn't allow you to save images so I have to screeshot
So it's not just me!!
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998I would wait for delta to co-sign this statement, but I feel sorry for him, actually like him.. but supermans statement was that over time they could lay waste to entire universes. They could go from planet to planet to planet and destroy.. over time.
And speaking of statements......Zod and other two kryptonians( sorry I don't bother to remember their names. Zod is the one only matters) capable of destroying entire universes. And Superman survived and even still conscious after a prolonged fight with them.....From Superman (1987) Annual 10. Again, sorry readcomiconline doesn't allow you to save images so I have to screeshot
Originally posted by JBL
I would wait for delta to co-sign this statement, but I feel sorry for him, actually like him.. but supermans statement was that over time they could lay waste to entire universes. They could go from planet to planet to planet and destroy.. over time.
Show where it says they would have done it over time planet by planet.
Just like I'm waiting for you to show me jumping on the multiverse punching bandwagon.
And we're waiting for what convinced you Mageddon was debunked.
Originally posted by JBL
I would wait for delta to co-sign this statement, but I feel sorry for him, actually like him.. but supermans statement was that over time they could lay waste to entire universes. They could go from planet to planet to planet and destroy.. over time.
And this also applies to Gladitor's star collapsing/black hole tearing statements. Gladitor could be collapsing a star by using specific equipments or he needs an extended time to collapse one
Black hole statements also could be argued it was made by Kid Gladiator, who, well, not the best candidate for credible source as DS pointed out years ago
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's Gladiator's kid, so yes, he'll know all about his own dad's exploits. Glads being a celebrity in the Shi-Ar empire would also mean his feats are widely known. Add to this the fact that Kid G mixes in the same sort of circles, and that makes him a more credible source than Spiderman talking about Galactus' battles.HOWEVER, he is not an expert like Cho. He is also a kid, and has been brought up to believe his dad is all powerful. The very propaganda machine which disseminates Gladiator's feats, may very well have some element of hyperbole in them. At least you could argue that Cho went back and studied all the footage and news reports around the Hulk's rampages, crunched the numbers and realised there were 0 casualties. Therefore, I give Kid G's statements less credibility than Cho's.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
True, it does - but what I've seen of Kid G, he hardly seems the brightest candle in the room. Confident and cocky, yes, as all Strontians should be - but I just don't see him as being all that clever, and thus, he MAY be easily fooled. Not saying the black hole feat never happened - but I take it with a pinch of salt (not a lot, because its not impossible that Gladiator can't do it).
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
True, it does - but what I've seen of Kid G, he hardly seems the brightest candle in the room. Confident and cocky, yes, as all Strontians should be - but I just don't see him as being all that clever, and thus, he MAY be easily fooled. Not saying the black hole feat never happened - but I take it with a pinch of salt (not a lot, because its not impossible that Gladiator can't do it).
DarkSaint slyly saying it didn't happen with the double negative.
The phrase "late waste to" does imply gradual destruction, but it's still impressive as a universe is huge, so to do it in any reasonable amount of time, they would need to be devastating at least billions of planets every second, which implies either galaxy level destructive power, or absolutely insane speed.
As for Gladiator's solar system destroying blast containment feat, I actually calculated that once, but I don't recall if the result was supernova level or not (I'm on my mobile so I can't easily check).
But I think Reed's statements on the matter are fairly reliable, and the Mageddon statement is reliable as well. I see no real reason to doubt either.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
The phrase "late waste to" does imply gradual destruction, but it's still impressive as a universe is huge, so to do it in any reasonable amount of time, they would need to be devastating at least billions of planets every second, which implies either galaxy level destructive power, or absolutely insane speed.As for Gladiator's solar system destroying blast containment feat, I actually calculated that once, but I don't recall if the result was supernova level or not (I'm on my mobile so I can't easily check).
But I think Reed's statements on the matter are fairly reliable, and the Mageddon statement is reliable as well. I see no real reason to doubt either.
Hmmm, I'm not sure about it implies gradual destruction from what I read.
For example
"The Radiant proved stronger and revailed over Doomsday in *a final blast of pure energy that laid waste a fifth of calaton* "
https://ibb.co/ncfpVm2
That definitely sounds like it was done in one attack.
Regardless, JBL probably wouldn't accept Superman could withstood-billions-of planets-every-second-destroying power or Kryptoanins are that fast.
Gladiator(Reed case) and Superman(Mageddon)'s both are reliable. The major problem, again, is at some certain posters here I believe *shrug*
Originally posted by Endless Mike
The phrase "late waste to" does imply gradual destruction, but it's still impressive as a universe is huge, so to do it in any reasonable amount of time, they would need to be devastating at least billions of planets every second, which implies either galaxy level destructive power, or absolutely insane speed.As for Gladiator's solar system destroying blast containment feat, I actually calculated that once, but I don't recall if the result was supernova level or not (I'm on my mobile so I can't easily check).
But I think Reed's statements on the matter are fairly reliable, and the Mageddon statement is reliable as well. I see no real reason to doubt either.
Subjective interpretation isn't the standards JBL uses for Gladiator's statements, so I'm holding him to that standard here.
Calculations are unnecessary, we have Reed saying it's almost nova proportions, so not even quite equal to a nova. Which is well under a supernova.
If you're talking about me saying it was firecracker level, that's to ridicule JBL over "there was no star" when I posted the difference between a nova and supernova, since "near nova proportions" was used to describe the explosion.