The thing is, most people underestimate supernovas by a lot.
In a comic, it's normally just some explosion.
In real life, a supernova going off where the sun is while you're on earth would be worse than touching an atomic bomb when it's going off... by nine orders of magnitude.
There's that much power.
Originally posted by dmills
Maaaan. Big phucking ditto on "healing factors" reversing the effects of transmutation. Only of slightly lessor annoyance is a person resisting powerful TP via "will power" or "rage". I've always thought of powerful tp as complete domination of a victims neurons etc. WTF does "will power" have to do with countering that?As for black holes and exploding stars etc. If I were editor in chief @ Marvel or DC, no one short or skyfather is surviving shit like that unless they have some sort of power set advantage. It just phucks up any of the suspension of disbelief limits that I have reserved for comic book entertainment.
Think about it, as awesomely powerful as super novas are, they are "only" responsible for creating solar systems. A GALAXY contains hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of solar systems. The power necessary to bust a galaxy is mind boggling, yet Vision and WM survived!
Man, all this is pissing me off. I just want to walk up to a classmate and punch them in the face.
Originally posted by Galan007
I would like to point out that Supes never took a 50x supernova to the face:
http://i.imgur.com/asxKmH4.jpg
The absolute most you could argue is that he withstood the electromagnetic shockwave generated by the explosion-- but the radiation itself(the particularly dangerous part of the blast) never actually touched him before he was saved. If it had, Supes would have been "incinerated."That said, I do believe he can survive a supernova. He's certainly not going to tank it, mind you... But he would survive.
Yeah, damn - I recalled that feat being much more impressive :-|
But didn't he still take regular supernovas unharmed, yet knocked out? Wasn't there a Suneater-explosion, which left him unharmed, but knocked him out and sent him flying back in time or some crazy crap like that?
Originally posted by Q99
The thing is, most people underestimate supernovas by a lot.In a comic, it's normally just some explosion.
In real life, a supernova going off where the sun is while you're on earth would be worse than touching an atomic bomb when it's going off... by nine orders of magnitude.
There's that much power.
I once read that if a supernova went off 1 light year from Earth, it would still be powerful enough to obliterate every planet/celestial object in our solar system... So basically it's a solar system buster at least.
Originally posted by Enzeru
Yeah, damn - I recalled that feat being much more impressive :-|But didn't he still take regular supernovas unharmed, yet knocked out? Wasn't there a Suneater-explosion, which left him unharmed, but knocked him out and sent him flying back in time or some crazy crap like that?
That wasn't a supernova, that was a normal star.
Oh yea, that's another thing- comics do call any star exploding a 'supernova'. 90% of the time, it really would just be a normal nova. Much smaller and more reasonable.
Well there is some stuff in comics that you simply ignore, because it's too stupid and some stuff you simply have to go with.
In one of my Sentry threads I said that Superman's power-set is insanely stupid and that it would never work in the real world...
Check this out and supernovas will be the least of your worries regarding comic book logic:
If superpowers were real: Flight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GDYCxQYbjg
If superpowers were real: Super Strength
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOQhduHFp2I
If superpowers were real: Super Speed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryGR06dlPf0
If superpowers were real: Invisibility
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-YLJ-pHRhA
If superpowers were real: Body Mass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpV7DKwcqbk
If superpowers were real: Immortality
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvMiz0-nPxs
Some of them might just live due to their immortality like Juggernaut, Thanos when Death doesn't want to die, Captain Marvel in post crisis due to his magical regeneration. Superman is probably going to get amped by a super nova IMO.
Realistically none of them should, but they will surivie because comics.
Originally posted by Galan007
I would like to point out that Supes never took a 50x supernova to the face:
http://i.imgur.com/asxKmH4.jpg
The absolute most you could argue is that he withstood the electromagnetic shockwave generated by the explosion-- but the radiation itself(the particularly dangerous part of the blast) never actually touched him before he was saved. If it had, Supes would have been "incinerated."That said, I do believe he can survive a supernova. He's certainly not going to tank it, mind you... But he would survive.
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As for Torch, it's like others have said: the heat wouldn't hurt him(he's withstood Planck temperature, after all), but the shockwaves/planetary debris and so forth would probably kill him.
Originally posted by Q99
That wasn't a supernova, that was a normal star.Oh yea, that's another thing- comics do call any star exploding a 'supernova'. 90% of the time, it really would just be a normal nova. Much smaller and more reasonable.
