Originally posted by Galan007
I would like to point out that Supes never took a 50x supernova to the face:
http://i.imgur.com/asxKmH4.jpg
The absolute most you could argue is that he withstood the electromagnetic shockwave generated by the explosion-- but the radiation itself(the particularly dangerous part of the blast) never actually touched him before he was saved. If it had, Supes would have been "incinerated."That said, I do believe he can survive a supernova. He's certainly not going to tank it, mind you... But he would survive.
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As for Torch, it's like others have said: the heat wouldn't hurt him(he's withstood Planck temperature, after all), but the shockwaves/planetary debris and so forth would probably kill him.
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Exactly. It even states in the scan that the shockwaves hit him.
Yeah, it always made me lol how people came to the conclusion Superman was hit by the explosion as the scan very clearly says otherwise.
Superman tossed the bomb into the Sun-Eater and that's where the feat ended. It very clearly says that the electromagnetic shock wave (Most likely the flash of light we see) was rushing toward him followed by the radiation that would incinerate him if he was caught. We even have visual cues with the event expanding from the yellow core of the Sun Eater that Superman wasn't in.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
i doubt our sun is that big. its exagerrated
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I doubt we even have a sun, tbh.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Im still laughing. Shit made me spit out my beer.
Colossus Big C is a forum gem!
I'm like 95 percent sure it is impossible to be hit by an explosion and not get hit by the shockwave seeing as the shockwave is the (temporary) fastest moving part of the explosion, besides the blast wave, but I don't know if blast waves are possible in space seeing as it's the air around the kablooey...
The shockwave hit him and threw him back. The "explosion" was the radiation behind it. He tanked the shockwave and got the shit out of the way of the explosion. Either that or the explosion blew a line of radiation in front of it.
For a small scale example of the bomb in action:
As you can see the actual explosion is rather contained for lack of a better word, while the shockwave goes way the shit beyond that at far greater speeds.
Originally posted by psycho gundamI don't know a lot about nukes, but it looks like that step was skipped entirely in favor of shockwaves. I imagine a nuke would be sexy in high speed
^ not sure about supernovas but for nuclear/thermonuclear explosions the initial damage is caused by the flash, all but instantly released by the rapid release of particles during fission/fusion. the over-pressure wave comes after bringing the fireball with it
Though the initial damage isn't equal to the actual kablamo in the middle, it just moves a shitload farther. Ie Superman didn't tank 50 Supernovas, just the shockwave of one. Still impressive though.
They all die instantly. The power released in a supernova is absolutely ridiculous, orders and orders of magnitude above what any of them could possibly survive.
A nuclear bomb would at least hurt all the characters in the list. A supernova, which is MILLIONS of times more powerful than the power output of a steady-state star, will just clean the table instantly.
The story arc "Infinity Crusade" did justice to the effects of the Sun going nova (not supernova, since its mass is not high enough). Hulk, Thor, Drax, Thanos, ... all got easily killed. (It turned out to be just a vision, created by Adam Warlock with the Cosmic Egg, of what would happen if the Goddess' plan went through, but there is no reason to doubt the portrayal of the effect.)
Pressure of a Singularity >>> Force wave of a Supernova
They can all tank that, except Johnny
The radiation is pretty null for these characters. An argument could be made that rapidly cooling solar energy would blue-shift to red and weaken superman, but technically it would most likely need to be a blue star to go "supernova" in the first place.
Now the heat could hurt them but realistically all of these characters have faced hotter, like sustainable lightning...
Originally posted by abhilegend
That sun eater had absorbed energy of several suns and it all imploded as he was at the center of sun eater. It was more than a sun getting supernova.
Still, you could fit hundreds of our suns into the type of star that goes supernova, sometimes more.
And the Suneater would've presumably digested and used up a lot of the energy from the prior suns too, but even if it didn't, well, Supernovae are just that big.
Even if We decide to believe that he only got hit with the electromagnetic shockwave of the explosion is an ubber feat.
The electromagnetic shockwave of a nova is what makes a sun to collapse.
This is an explosion of a super nova and not only that but is a super nova x 50 so the electro magnetic shockwave it will be according to the size of the explosion.
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/files/2013/02/ackermann1HR.jpg
I think this is one of his ubber feats, but still dwarfed by the sun eater
