Namor and Doomwar T'Challa vs. D.C. Captain Marvel

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Yeah, he's done a LOT more than that.

That's two repulsor blasts and a Uni-Beam from a few feat away.

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Yeah, a Shazam bolt from the likes of Captain Marvel utterly blows a repulsor ray and unibeam from Iron Man out of the water in terms of power. Completely. The Power of Shazam is arguably one of the single most powerful spells in the DCU. In fact, it was so powerful, Alexander Luthor specifically needed Black Adam as a catalyst in order to power his machine to revive the Multiverse.

Maybe if Namor had done something like redirect a lightning bolt from Thor or something, I could see where you're coming from.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
You make the same bias dc booklickin comments in any post involving your blow up doll and his boring clones.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
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Yeah, a Shazam bolt from the likes of Captain Marvel utterly blows a repulsor ray and unibeam from Iron Man out of the water in terms of power. Completely. The Power of Shazam is arguably one of the single most powerful spells in the DCU. In fact, it was so powerful, Alexander Luthor specifically needed Black Adam as a catalyst in order to power his machine to revive the Multiverse.

Maybe if Namor had done something like redirect a lightning bolt from Thor or something, I could see where you're coming from.

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He didn't really absorb it, either. Just pushed through it.

Lol. Well, first of all I was responding to the question that Namor only reflected energy from fish. I don't know how much more powerful a blast from Captain Marvel is or not, however I am certain that a Unibeam and two repulsor blasts are millions or billions of times more powerful than a shock fron an eel or stingray. Exactly how a magical lightning attack compares is anyone's guess. I am unaware of any limitation of Namors reflecting powers. Here he is reflecting a blast that fell the Hulk:

It's definitely part of his base powerset and he does so rather effortlessly. Any thought that he could not pull this off against Captain Marvel is PURE speculation and nothing more.

Marvel wins this.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He didn't really absorb it, either. Just pushed through it.

He redirects it and that's what I said from the beginning....because that's what he is stated and shown to do. Any contention that Captain Marvel's blast woul be too powerful for Namor to deflect is speculation/ wishful thinking. Namor also redirected a blast that hurt a herald of Galactus. Are we going to lowball that in order to stay on script, or does the evidence tell us it's quite possible he would manage to redict the attack?

Love Namor and I like BP as well but Captain Marvel wins this every time. Namor would give him a fight though.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Any contention that Captain Marvel's blast woul be too powerful for Namor to deflect is speculation/ wishful thinking.

As is the speculation that he can absorb magical lightning on the scale of Billy's.

Whilst I don't want to derail the current argument on whether Namor can or cannot absorb magical lightning on that scale, how about Captain Marvel realises that Namor dehydrates, and sends him to the Sun?

IOW, if we are using the argument that 'it has been shown before, and is part of his powerset'....

Captain Marvel uses the Wisdom of Solomon to formulate a strategy based on their weaknesses. Yeah, that's right, he's a magic Karnak:

I never realized how awkward that panel was where Superman, Wonder Woman, and Billy are looking at Despero/Luthor.
They are clearly meant to be standing on flat ground, yet it looks like they're hovering above a slant. And Wonder Woman is crouching while hovering...

I just can't stop looking at Luthor's butt.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
IOW, if we are using the argument that 'it has been shown before, and is part of his powerset'....

Captain Marvel uses the Wisdom of Solomon to formulate a strategy based on their weaknesses. Yeah, that's right, he's a magic Karnak:

yeah, well the problem with that as I see it is that he almost never uses the wisdom of Solomon. In fact, there are many who argue on this board that Captain Marvel is nothing but a teenager mentally which is in direct opposition of him having a great wisdom. On the other hand, Namor has used his ability to redirect energy blasts much more then Captain Marvel has shown the wisdom of Solomon.furthermore, if Captain Marvel used the wisdom of Solomon regularly, he'd son Superman every single time.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
yeah, well the problem with that as I see it is that he almost never uses the wisdom of Solomon. In fact, there are many who argue on this board that Captain Marvel is nothing but a teenager mentally which is in direct opposition of him having a great wisdom. On the other hand, Namor has used his ability to redirect energy blasts much more then Captain Marvel has shown the wisdom of Solomon.furthermore, if Captain Marvel used the wisdom of Solomon regularly, he'd son Superman every single time.

But he does use it... a lot. And he never has a serious fight with Superman either. The times he does is when Superman is Eclipso'd, and he's still holding back. And those fights do anything but prove Billy would lose to Namor/BP.
Unless you really want me to post the last fight he had with Eclipso Superman and see how well that fits into your argument...

Also, where exactly has Namor redirected blasts more than Billy has shown?

I'll repost this, but here's Freddy's lightning depowering 10 thousand Kryptonians. Namor has feats dealing with magic this powerful naturally.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I know he has, but it's not infallible.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/doom/SVTU3-03.jpg
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/comic/doom/SVTU3-04.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/comic/doom/SVTU3-05.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/comic/doom/SVTU3-06.jpg.html

Naturally Namor would casually tank this:
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/shazam1.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/shazam2.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/shazam3.jpg

Even without that, Billy would just beat the shit out of both of them

i should know better than to look in on this thread. cm kills them, obviously, and he doesn't need lightning or superspeed to do so, though either one makes it easier. only someone with an agenda against dc would really argue so stringently against the arguments made already, and refuse to recognize their validity, and instead insist that cm's lightning can be controlled or redirected when namor has done NOTHING, EVER, in his entire HISTORY, to suggest he could influence an attack of that nature.

the hell is happening in threads around here lately? i feel dumber just for reading some of the shite i've seen posted the last few days....

Originally posted by leonidas
i should know better than to look in on this thread. cm kills them, obviously, and he doesn't need lightning or superspeed to do so, though either one makes it easier. only someone with an agenda against dc would really argue so stringently against the arguments made already, and refuse to recognize their validity, and instead insist that cm's lightning can be controlled or redirected when namor has done NOTHING, EVER, in his entire HISTORY, to suggest he could influence an attack of that nature.

the hell is happening in threads around here lately? i feel dumber just for reading some of the shite i've seen posted the last few days....

This makes you a dirty DC lover.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
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Superman looks so gay here.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Superman looks so gay.

Fixed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This makes you a dirty DC lover.

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