Thor vs Dr. Manhatten

Originally posted by h1a8
1. Thor doesn't get their feats just because he is a herald level being. Any mod will tell you this. Each character uniquely has his or her own feats. Feats aren't shared.

2. Surviving in the event horizon of a black hole is not the same as surviving touching the singularity. Heralds were always shown inside the event horizon but not touching the singularity. And stop trolling by ignoring on panel evidence. The comic explained that surfer and red shift were within its radius fighting. This proves they didn't touch the singularity.

If Thor gets teleported to the singularity he dies instantly. There is no teleporting back, especially if DM teleports his hammer away momentarily. Even inside the event horizon close enough to the singularity Thor would still die or be critically injured

Originally posted by Newjak
Thor recently traveled many times the speed of light and his body did not break apart. I think he can survive a black hole.

Sometimes even scientists called both the singularity and it's event horizon a black hole.

Singularity

At the center of a black hole as described by general relativity lies a
gravitational singularity, a region where the spacetime curvature becomes infinite.

Observers falling into a Schwarzschild black hole cannot avoid being carried into the singularity, once they cross the event horizon. They can prolong the experience by accelerating away to slow their descent, but only up to a point; after attaining a certain ideal velocity, it is best to free fall the rest of the way. When they reach the singularity, they are crushed to infinite density and their mass is added to the total of the black hole. Before that happens, they will have been torn apart by the growing tidal forces in a process sometimes referred to as spaghettification or the "noodle effect".

Surviving in the event horizon sufficiently close to the singularity is phucking awesome and is one of the best durability feats one can have. But surviving a singularity is impossible for there is infinite gravity force pulling one apart. One has to have infinite durability to be able to touch a singularity and not be destroyed.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why is this thread still open? Thor stomps this ***.

Thor has no way of beating someone who can
1. Reform over and over
2. Become intangible
3. Duplicate himself over and over with just a thought.
4. Grow to large sizes
5. Teleport Thor's hammer away and then Thor to a black hole with just a thought.
6. Teleport galaxy wide distances with just a thought.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I have offered several times to compare Thor's feats to those that have survived a blackhole.

Why? Does Thor have any feats against physical forces that top a black hole? If not then comparing you would lose as I'll just use the black hole feat.

Also, Thor, IMO, can survive being inside the event horizon but closer to the edge. If he gets too close or touches the singularity he dies quickly.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why? Does Thor have any feats against physical forces that top a black hole? If not then comparing you would lose as I'll just use the black hole feat.

Also, Thor, IMO, can survive being inside the event horizon but closer to the edge. If he gets too close or touches the singularity he dies quickly.

Does this mean you agree to compare feats?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Does this mean you agree to compare feats?

Surfer survives in a black hole along with Red Shift. Top that.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is not going to prove that Thor can survive in a black hole. If anything you would prove PIS. But let's go, physical force feats only

Surfer survives in a black hole along with Red Shift. Top that.

Are you really saying that Thor having better durability feats than people that have survived a blackhole wouldn't prove that he could also survive one?

Originally posted by h1a8
Traveling many times the speed of light doesn't harm the body if the acceleration is bearable. Starships and even humans can go many times the speed of light in fiction. It's the acceleration that supplies the force, not the speed. Now if Thor went from 0 to the speed of light within 1 second then he would experience 10 million tons of force on his body. Black holes can be far worst than that depending on how close one is to the singularity.
But the problem is Thor never went from 0 to the speed of light within a second. In one scan it took him several seconds just to reach light speed from a resting position.

Originally posted by Newjak
You do realize he traveled lightyears in that span so he would have had to accelerate multiple times the speed of light in less than a second to travel that distance.

Ok let's say 2 light years and let's say 3 minutes of travel.

D = 1/2*a*t^2 where D is distance, a is acceleration, and t is time

To find Force when need to know acceleration since F = ma
So a = 2D/t^2

A light year is D = 299792458(3600)(24)(365) meters while the
Time is t = 180 seconds

So acceleration is a = 2*299792458*3600*24*365/180^2

Now Thor has a mass of m = 300kg. So the Force the hammer is pulling his arm with is
F = ma = 350 trillion newtons or 39 billion tons of force. This is very impressive indeed. I had no doubt Thor can survive inside the event horizon of a black hole since there are places inside that exert forces less than that.

My argument is the singularity, where infinite force pulls on you the moment you make contact with it. Being very close to it (about a meter away) without touching gives a large amount of force but certainly less than what most high heralds can survive.

Everyone do yoursel a favor and put h1a8 on your ignore list, he's nothing but a troll and how he hasn't been banned is beyond me

I sometimes think people create theses Dr. M threads just to see h1a8 argue with the rest of the people on the forums, hehe.

with that said im going with thor hes built to fight energy beings like this. Provided there is no bullzhit like Dr.M reads his mind or predicts the future and knows whats going to happen before hand then yes. The good doctor loses.

Originally posted by h1a8
You referring to the Gorr feat huh.
How do you know how many light years away or the time it took?

Ok let's say 2 light years and let's say 3 minutes of travel.

D = 1/2*a*t^2 where D is distance, a is acceleration, and t is time

To find Force when need to know acceleration since F = ma
So a = 2D/t^2

A light year is D = 299792458(3600)(24)(365) meters while the
Time is t = 180 seconds

So acceleration is a = 2*299792458*3600*24*365/180^2

Now Thor has a mass of m = 300kg. So the Force the hammer is pulling his arm with is
F = ma = 350 trillion newtons or 39 billion tons of force. This is very impressive indeed. I had no doubt Thor can survive inside the event horizon of a black hole since there are places inside that exert forces less than that.

My argument is the singularity, where infinite force pulls on you the moment you make contact with it. Being very close to it (about a meter away) without touching gives a large amount of force but certainly less than what most high heralds can survive.

Wow. that's deep. I must say. That's a well thought out response. I think its safe to say you have convinced everyone that Dr. M wins for sure now.

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Originally posted by h1a8
You referring to the Gorr feat huh.
How do you know how many light years away or the time it took?

Ok let's say 2 light years and let's say 3 minutes of travel.

D = 1/2*a*t^2 where D is distance, a is acceleration, and t is time

To find Force when need to know acceleration since F = ma
So a = 2D/t^2

A light year is D = 299792458(3600)(24)(365) meters while the
Time is t = 180 seconds

So acceleration is a = 2*299792458*3600*24*365/180^2

Now Thor has a mass of m = 300kg. So the Force the hammer is pulling his arm with is
F = ma = 350 trillion newtons or 39 billion tons of force. This is very impressive indeed. I had no doubt Thor can survive inside the event horizon of a black hole since there are places inside that exert forces less than that.

My argument is the singularity, where infinite force pulls on you the moment you make contact with it. Being very close to it (about a meter away) without touching gives a large amount of force but certainly less than what most high heralds can survive.

Originally posted by Newjak
what about the energy needed to propel Thor's mass to past light speed to begin with? Did you factor that in as well considering Thor's body would have had to handle that as well.

Originally posted by h1a8
We do not need to know the final velocity to determine force or energy. All we need is acceleration.

Please, stop.