Daredevil and Elektra vs. Luke Cage and Iron Fist

Random encounter:

- No prep
- Bloodlust on
- Location: Walmart parking lot at 3:00 AM (No Civilians Nearby)

They can't do a thing to Cage.

yeah, team 2 takes it handily for a heavy majority, unless we take into account elektra's tp. if she can incapacitate cage somehow, or perhaps trick him into fighting on their side, team 1 can take it. i wouldn't say that would happen often though out of 10.

Iron fist wins

Not looking well for team 1

Originally posted by carver9
They can't do a thing to Cage.

1) Pressure points worked on him before.

2) Elektra's sai pierced She-Rulk with no trouble.

I wouldn't write off team one here at all. Matt has stalemated and or defeated Danny every thine they have crossed. Cage only has impervious skin the organs below are just as susceptible to damage as those of anyone else. Considering that Matt has taken on and taken down Tombstone who is more durable in many ways than Cage while fighting someone else ( a swordsman IIRC).

I see no reason why DD can't take down Cage with pressure points and considering how much trouble DD has every time he fights Elektra she should be equally able to give Danny trouble.

Not by any means calling a win either way. Matt and Danny are my two fav Marvel characters (with Longshot, Thor and Hellstrom they are in my top 5 for Marvel ). I will say that over recent years Danny has been greatly improved so mat's showing against would be difficult to repeat, but certainly not enough to completely rule out team 1.

t2 easily 🙁

Team 2 wins.

Cage could be a nightmare for Daredevil (thunderclap):

But his vulnerability to pressure point attacks are still there.

However, IF could take them on.

Oh please Cage doing a thunderclap is pure and utter PIS. 25 ton strength just isn't enough to make any sort of decent shockwave.

How is cage any better than

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/1051831-img011iy9.jpg.html

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/1051833-img013zq5.jpg.html

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/1051836-img016ri8.jpg.html

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/1051835-img015pw6.jpg.html

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/1051834-img014hx2.jpg.html

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/1051837-img017vl4__1_.jpg.html

Yeah Cage is going to be so much more of a threat to Matt than Tombstone who DD fought for 6 pages while fighting others and put down.

As for Danny
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/Daredevil_178p.jpg.html

That's at least one time out of several when Danny couldn't even lay a glove on Matt. Now admittedly for two of them it went two way for the others it was Matt who had the upper hand. Elektra on the other hand has had no problem laying hands on Matt

Originally posted by beatboks
Oh please Cage doing a thunderclap is pure and utter PIS. 25 ton strength just isn't enough to make any sort of decent shockwave.

How is cage any better than

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/1051831-img011iy9.jpg.html

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/1051833-img013zq5.jpg.html

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/1051836-img016ri8.jpg.html

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/1051835-img015pw6.jpg.html

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/1051834-img014hx2.jpg.html

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/1051837-img017vl4__1_.jpg.html

Yeah Cage is going to be so much more of a threat to Matt than Tombstone who DD fought for 6 pages while fighting others and put down.

As for Danny
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/Daredevil_178p.jpg.html

That's at least one time out of several when Danny couldn't even lay a glove on Matt. Now admittedly for two of them it went two way for the others it was Matt who had the upper hand. Elektra on the other hand has had no problem laying hands on Matt

Good scans. He won with BFR against Tombstone, though, and this is a featureless environment (not to mention, no sledgehammer here).

Daredevil also broke his hands and feet when attempting to fight Kingpin...and Cage is significantly more durable than KP.

Tombstone got knocked out, next to last panel.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Tombstone got knocked out, next to last panel.

He was merely enjoying a refreshing dip. That look (which I missed before) is the look of bliss sneer.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Good scans. He won with BFR against Tombstone, though, and this is a featureless environment (not to mention, no sledgehammer here).

Daredevil also broke his hands and feet when attempting to fight Kingpin...and Cage is significantly more durable than KP.

Pertinent facts to remember
1. DD was fighting someone else as well as Lonnie
2. Lonnie is more skilled than Cage, let's not forget he was a threat to Spidey ( and able to take him) long before he gained his powers.
3. Dad was alone, here he has help ( though Elektra will be busy with Danny)
4. Lonnie has less morals than Luke so would likely have been fighting harder

I could just as easily have posted scans on the time DD took down Namor as he flew, or when he took on 4 or 5 Abengers single handedly, or then men, but anyone with a brain would know they were PIS

Originally posted by beatboks
Pertinent facts to remember
1. DD was fighting someone else as well as Lonnie
2. Lonnie is more skilled than Cage, let's not forget he was a threat to Spidey ( and able to take him) long before he gained his powers.
3. Dad was alone, here he has help ( though Elektra will be busy with Danny)
4. Lonnie has less morals than Luke so would likely have been fighting harder

I could just as easily have posted scans on the time DD took down Namor as he flew, or when he took on 4 or 5 Abengers single handedly, or then men, but anyone with a brain would know they were PIS

All good points:

1. With regards to this one, in the fight, Tombstone and Matador were getting in each other's way (Tombstone even knocks Matador away in page 4)
2. Agreed.
3. Agreed. Saying that, Cage also has help here, and him and Danny will be more used to fighting alongside each other than T and Matador.
4. Debateable. Luke can and does give it his all when fighting.

TS and Cage fought in 616. Scans were posted a long time ago, but Luke looked better, iirc.

Cage's recent upgrades put him closer to class 50 or more.

Not to mention neither of team one can take hits from either of team two's members.

Don't be so sure, DD survived the encounter with Savage Hulk and Elektra took hits from Skrullossus.

Originally posted by beatboks
Oh please Cage doing a thunderclap is pure and utter PIS. 25 ton strength just isn't enough to make any sort of decent shockwave.

How is cage any better than

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/1051831-img011iy9.jpg.html

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/1051833-img013zq5.jpg.html

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/1051836-img016ri8.jpg.html

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/1051835-img015pw6.jpg.html

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/1051834-img014hx2.jpg.html

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/1051837-img017vl4__1_.jpg.html

Yeah Cage is going to be so much more of a threat to Matt than Tombstone who DD fought for 6 pages while fighting others and put down.

As for Danny
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/daredevil/Daredevil_178p.jpg.html

That's at least one time out of several when Danny couldn't even lay a glove on Matt. Now admittedly for two of them it went two way for the others it was Matt who had the upper hand. Elektra on the other hand has had no problem laying hands on Matt

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Don't be so sure, DD survived the encounter with Savage Hulk and Elektra took hits from Skrullossus.

If either survived an iron fist/non holding back cage punch it would be a very high outlier.