Lotr (movie universe) vs. Twilight Princess

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]Incorrect. It provides them with light as it clearly says that twilight takes away light. Find the quote where it states it is a shield which protects them against Twilight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roxTF3lUmOc

From the Light Spirit's own mouths, they protect.

Lotr doesn't need magical light as does Hyrule.

That precisely why i's vulnerable to Twilight, because it has no light to protect it.

The game makes it clear without the magical light they turn into ghosts.

Yeah, and LotR has no magical light, so they'll turn into ghosts. Glad you finally get it.

Originally posted by The Scenario
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roxTF3lUmOc

From the Light Spirit's own mouths, they protect.

That precisely why i's vulnerable to Twilight, because it has no light to protect it.

Yeah, and LotR has no magical light, so they'll turn into ghosts. Glad you finally get it.

No, the spell takes away light which was done to link later on. Light broke the spell.

Gandalf has magical light, they already have an army of ghosts, they have demons, beings who don't rely on light, etc.

The rules of Hyrule don't apply to all worlds.

Only reason twilight covered the land was the light was stolen from the light spirits.

What binds him is a different magic than what transformed him when he first
passed the curtain of twilight. It is an evil power.
Our world is one of balance... Just as there is light to drive away darkness,
so, too, is there benevolence to banish evil.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They each protect a designated area. He protects the forest. They all provide magical light to the realm. 🙂

Incorrect, they each provide magical light to their realm and protect it, as stated in the game.

No, the spell takes away light which was done to link later on. Light broke the spell.

Light was never taken away from Link. In fact, an object was placed insided. That's adding Twilight, not taking away light.

Gandalf has magical light, they already have an army of ghosts, they have demons, beings who don't rely on light, etc.

So only Gandalf will make it, and Ganondorf still wrecks him.

The rules of Hyrule don't apply to all worlds.

The rules of Twilight do, though.

Only reason twilight covered the land was the light was stolen from the light spirits.

Yes, the shield that protected them was taken away. Do you understand it yet?

What binds him is a different magic than what transformed him when he first
passed the curtain of twilight. It is an evil power.
Our world is one of balance... Just as there is light to drive away darkness,
so, too, is there benevolence to banish evil.

See, the light (of the Master Sword) drives it away. That proves that without light LotR is vulnerable. Thanks for that.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Incorrect, they each provide magical light to their realm and protect it, as stated in the game.

Light was never taken away from Link. In fact, an object was placed insided. That's adding Twilight, not taking away light.

So only Gandalf will make it, and Ganondorf still wrecks him.

The rules of Twilight do, though.

Yes, the shield that protected them was taken away. Do you understand it yet?

See, the light (of the Master Sword) drives it away. That proves that without light LotR is vulnerable. Thanks for that.

Watch the clip again. That is what the spell did but the light drove it away from the Master Sword.

False. Gandalf can use it to break the spell quite easily on massive fashion. Ganondorf would lose to Gandalf.

All that is needed is light. That is it.

Nowhere is it stated as a shield. Twilight takes away the light. Thats is. Spirits provide the light and it was stolen.

They cannot take away the light of the Lotr and Gandalf can supply light to dispel it anyways. You also failed to address the ghost like army. Keep repeating yourself, well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Magical light is provided and without the light they are unbalanced. They protect it and provide the magical light to the land.

No, Faron clearly states that he uses the life force of the gods to protect his realm.

Watch the clip again. That is what the spell did but the light drove it away from the Master Sword.

That doesn't change the fact placing a Twilight object within Link did not take his light away. In fact, even after the light was returned he stayed a wolf. That alone proves you completely wrong.

False. Gandalf can use it to break the spell quite easily on massive fashion. Ganondorf would lose to Gandalf.

Prove it.

All that is needed is light. That is it.

Divine Light. "Life Force of the Gods." The game shows that normal light does not work.

Nowhere is it stated as a shield. Twilight takes away the light. Thats is. Spirits provide the light and it was stolen.

They state that they use the life force of the gods to protect their realm. That is absolute proof that the light is a shield.

They cannot take away the light of the Lotr and Gandalf can supply light to dispel it anyways. You also failed to address the ghost like army. Keep repeating yourself, well.

LotR has no light to protect them, and Gandalf can only drive it away on a small scale before it returns. The Ghost army is a nonfactor compared to Shadow Beasts.

Originally posted by The Scenario
No, Faron clearly states that he uses the life force of the gods to protect his realm.

That doesn't change the fact placing a Twilight object within Link did not take his light away. In fact, even after the light was returned he stayed a wolf. That alone proves you completely wrong.

Prove it.

Divine Light. "Life Force of the Gods." The game shows that normal light does not work.

They state that they use the life force of the gods to protect their realm. That is absolute proof that the light is a shield.

LotR has no light to protect them, and Gandalf can only drive it away on a small scale before it returns. The Ghost army is a nonfactor compared to Shadow Beasts.

Yes, it did and only once you use light does it drive the spell away. That is exactly how it works.

People rely on magical light. That is why.

No, the light force keeps them balanced by providing them with light.

Shadow bests have inferior beasts and can be killed physically. Can the ghost army ? You're so biased you aren't even a real debater.

So this is 13 pages of Ganon soloing, and Quan trying to make up reasons why this is not so. It occurs to me we might as well just merge every Quan thread into one.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
So this is 13 pages of Ganon soloing, and Quan trying to make up reasons why this is not so. It occurs to me we might as well just merge every Quan thread into one.

Sauron's only noteworthy feat is destroying that bridge. Link would treat Sauron like a nameless mook. Ganondorf is what Sauron wants to be when he grows up.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Sauron's only noteworthy feat is destroying that bridge. Link would treat Sauron like a nameless mook. Ganondorf is what Sauron wants to be when he grows up.

Dorf is someone who had two afternoons in the sun. Sauron is the villain Dorf can't even live up to be. Sauron created his own ring unlike Dorf who stumbled onto the top after some late night bondage with the Sages.

Twenty men, that's pathetic next to what Ganon's straight up tanked. Ganon is far and away more powerful.

Sauron tricked Elves into making the rings, watch the movies.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Twenty men, that's pathetic next to what Ganon's straight up tanked. Ganon is far and away more powerful.

Sauron tricked Elves into making the rings, watch the movies.

Where do you come up with this horseshit ?

No, he created his own ring to rule them all.

50 or so seconds in proves you are wrong.

Fear Sauron.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TYkcrgced9U

I am going to start comparing his ingenious to Ganondorf's stupidity.

Killing mooks is not worth anything against someone as powerful as Ganondorf.

Throwing five men at a time is nothing compared to overpowering someone who can lift mountains.

Sauron's genius allowed two hobbits to simply walk into Mordor and cripple him.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Killing mooks is not worth anything against someone as powerful as Ganondorf.

Throwing five men at a time is nothing compared to overpowering someone who can lift mountains.

Sauron's genius allowed two hobbits to simply walk into Mordor and cripple him.

Dorf didn't lift mountains and he was overpowered by Link.

Sauron isn't all knowing. Dorf was mocked in his own game and entirely clueless about the Master Sword. The Hobbits initially failed. Frodo wasn't even going to toss the ring in there initially.

It would corrupt link as well.

Because he didn't, he deceived the Elves to have it made.

This says more about Link than Ganondorf, who had taken three rounds of beatings from Fi at that point.

Sauron was stopped by Hobbits. Hobbits. Consider that.

No.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Because he didn't, he deceived the Elves to have it made.

This says more about Link than Ganondorf, who had taken three rounds of beatings from Fi at that point.

Sauron was stopped by Hobbits. Hobbits. Consider that.

No.

This is what you do. You make shit up and I post evidence and you continue to make shit up.

Sauron didn't have a body and never faced them in combat. Link killed Dorf. Fairly. Huge diff.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
The clip showed him forging it in secret in Mount Doom. 😂

This is what you do. You make shit up and I post evidence and you continue to make shit up.

Sauron didn't have a body and never faced them in combat. Link killed Dorf. Fairly. Huge diff.

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Sauron didn't need a body to fight Gandalf, and he doesn't need a body to lose to Zelda when Ganondorf throws down a Twilight field.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I make shit up? Aren't you the guy claiming that the light spirits are why Twilight fields happen when they are explicitly a line of defense against them? You're blaming condoms for pregnancy, Quan. haermm

Sauron didn't need a body to fight Gandalf, and he doesn't need a body to lose to Zelda when Ganondorf throws down a Twilight field.

You don't listen and just spout nonsense half the time.

When light is taken away the people are turned into the spirits. I backed my claims with proof.

I know but Gandalf was in his immediate area. The hobbits were not. Quit saying dumb things.

Sauron is already a spirit and can use magic unlike the random powerless Hylians. Dear lord.

Go ahead and watch Desolation of Smaug again.

Your proof is misuse of language and spinning, the fact is at the end of the day that you are wrong, and have been proven wrong, and repeat yourself. Light spirits are defense, not vulnerability.

Dude, they went right into Mount Doom, he was in the viscinity.

Can you show me any defense he has against the power of Twilight? Cause I can't recall shit.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Go ahead and watch Desolation of Smaug again.

Your proof is misuse of language and spinning, the fact is at the end of the day that you are wrong, and have been proven wrong, and repeat yourself. Light spirits are defense, not vulnerability.

Dude, they went right into Mount Doom, he was in the viscinity.

Can you show me any defense he has against the power of Twilight? Cause I can't recall shit.

😂

Untrue. Clip says minus the light this spell does so and so. Boom light and spell defeated. Your clip proved that.

It just turns someone into their spirit form which Sauron already is. 😂

Try and make sense.