Guns

Originally posted by Nephthys
Sitting at the front of the buss isn't quite equivalent to owning a deadly weapon. Sorry dude, but guns seem to me to be exactly the kind of thing we shouldn't let just anyone have. They're too dangerous. Too many people get hurt as a result of easy access IMO.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't understand your point.

I will say that the constitution was written a long time ago in a very different world and parts of it clash with modern society. Back then the word 'frontier' was a real thing and people actually needed guns for protection. In 2013 everyone owning guns is more dangerous than not owning them.

Also I'm British so I don't really care about the constitution.

Well Im American and I do..and Your take on guns does little for my rights to own them as an America..there was a reason we left Britan high and dry

Right... but the question is whether you should have those rights. Laws can be changed.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Right... but the question is whether you should have those rights. Laws can be changed.

Why did we leave Britain then?

Because you saw the British nanny state bullshit coming?

Originally posted by Supra
Why did we leave Britain then?

Taxes?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Taxes?

Add religious persecution to that.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I will say that the constitution was written a long time ago in a very different world and parts of it clash with modern society. Back then the word 'frontier' was a real thing and people actually needed guns for protection. In 2013 everyone owning guns is more dangerous than not owning them.

Wish more people here had this kind of mentality rather than thinking the constitution is some holy document written by some kind of weird all-knowing demigods.

Also back then our military was essentially a militia and guns were the best type of defense against an invading force. Now we have the most powerful/expensive military in the world, so it's not really necessary anymore.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Add religious persecution to that.

And freedom and eagles and shit

And we use the guns to kill the eagles.

'merica **** yea

Tbf though, the eagles haven't been a real threat since Superman defeated their king back in the 50's.

Can't be too safe. Our laziness is what led to the threat of the original eagle king.

Originally posted by BackFire
Wish more people here had this kind of mentality rather than thinking the constitution is some holy document written by some kind of weird all-knowing demigods.

Originally posted by Nephthys

Also I'm British so I don't really care about the constitution as much as you yanks.

What about the Ashes......... 😆 🤣 😂

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Sorry to disrupt the guns issue, but, he's a Pom 😆

Originally posted by BackFire
Wish more people here had this kind of mentality rather than thinking the constitution is some holy document written by some kind of weird all-knowing demigods.

Also back then our military was essentially a militia and guns were the best type of defense against an invading force. Now we have the most powerful/expensive military in the world, so it's not really necessary anymore.

Which makes me think of a line from Squidbillies when the main characters were hiding out in the wilderness with shotguns and clubs:

"But what do we do if the world's most powerful and well funded military comes for us?"
"Shoot at 'em."

Yeah, that's what they say. It's a ridiculous argument that doesn't have any merit.

If the government were to turn against the people they aren't going to be held back by some dipshits with shotguns and glocks. Those won't be very effective at fighting off tanks and stealth helicopters. Your quote is pretty spot on.

Plus that argument raises the important question of who decides if the government overstepped its bounds? There are those already saying it has and that they're prepared to engage in a civil war, you know, because attempting to give universal health care to the poor is a threat to the American way of life. Think of the poor CEO's, etc.

It's just them grasping at straws.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Wow...those comments...just wow.

Originally posted by Supra
Why did we leave Britain then?

Originally posted by BackFire
Yeah, that's what they say. It's a ridiculous argument that doesn't have any merit.

If the government were to turn against the people they aren't going to be held back by some dipshits with shotguns and glocks. Those won't be very effective at fighting off tanks and stealth helicopters. Your quote is pretty spot on.

Plus that argument raises the important question of who decides if the government overstepped its bounds? There are those already saying it has and that they're prepared to engage in a civil war, you know, because attempting to give universal health care to the poor is a threat to the American way of life. Think of the poor CEO's, etc.

It's just them grasping at straws.