Batman/Deathstroke vs Black Panther/Daredevil

Originally posted by abhilegend
They were supposed to be better than the originals yet got taken down by every damn hero they faced. Name a single hero who super skrulls beat in that story.

Not in pure MA, he hasn't. Deathstroke beat him because he is physically superior to bruce, not because he is more skilled.

Of course we can. You are essentially arguing that Black Panther is as skilled as say Karate Kid or Richard Dragon, because they both are top tier martial artist. ****ing Kobra has been stated to have learned every form of combat, he is as skilled as Cap now?

So he's as skilled as Bruce just because you say so? Great argument there bro. I don't have any interest in who beats who here though.

That doesn't change the fact that each skrull had a different ability and not all of them were as powerful or as talented with their abilities. each of them was unique. trying to say because elektra stabbed a skrull that could fly, then they're all fodder is a horrible argument to make.

there are heroes that are written as top tier martial artists, like batman, black panther, captain america, and taskmaster, then there are characters that are written to be the measuring stick of all other martial artists. those are your shang-chis, richard dragons, and shivas. every once in a while a character might stalemate or beat one of these characters but they usualy have much greater martial art feats. black panther has beaten captain america, task master, karnak, and a slew of other top tier martial artists. batman's martial arts feats don't eclipse his, and even if you believe they do, then black panther should still be able to beat him because, as you said, deathstroke beat batman due to his superior physical abilities. t'challa is also physically superior to batman.

i'm not asking you to hold my word, but when t'challa beats marvel's best martial artists or shows feats, the don't count, but for batman they do. you have a clear bias in favor of DC and their fighters which I don't intend to argue any further especially if you continue to try and discount other character's feats.

T'Challa is physically superior to Batman, as good a fighter, and carries deadlier equipment, so he's the superior combatant here.

Tchalla is Batman times 3(especially since his power up). There should be no argument about that.

Originally posted by Trackz
That doesn't change the fact that each skrull had a different ability and not all of them were as powerful or as talented with their abilities. each of them was unique. trying to say because elektra stabbed a skrull that could fly, then they're all fodder is a horrible argument to make.

[quoe]T'Challa is physically superior to Batman, as good a fighter, and carries deadlier equipment, so he's the superior combatant here. [/QUOTE] He is physically superior to bruce but Bruce is certainly a better fighter.

BP solo's

Just pointing out he cheated with Prometheus....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Just pointing out he cheated with Prometheus....

Originally posted by abhilegend
So you don't have anything at all. I'm not saying that they were weak because of Panther beating them, but Elektra (the real one) fought Skrulls that had the powers of Wolverine and Reed Richards, and killed them by stabbing them in the face, BP beheaded, with the Ebony Blade, a Skrull with the powers of Thor, Beta Ray Bill and Loki, and then later he and Storm singlehandedly slaughtered (with just swords, no powers) an entire Skull spaceship. That's the definition of being cannon fodder, unless you think Wolverine without adamantium would die from being stabbed into face.

Not true. Batman is the measuring stick of MAs in DC. Cap is the measuring stick of MAs in marvel. I'm not arguing who beats who, so take it to someone who is. I'm just saying Batman is better in MA than Panther.

Who says they don't? Batman defeating Prometheus with the skills of top 36 martial artists in world>>>>Panther defeating a skrull with the skills ofCap, Shang-Chi, Elektra, Bullseye and Black Panther. LOLWUT? Did I say Batman beats panther anywhere? Don't throw a fit if Batman's skill feats are better than Panther's.

[quoe]T'Challa is physically superior to Batman, as good a fighter, and carries deadlier equipment, so he's the superior combatant here.

...elektra stabbing a skrull that has wolverines claws or reeds elasticity is completely believable assuming that they only have those select abilities. as I said, each skrull had different abilities, so elektra being able to beat one has nothing to do with T'Challa beating the one he did. It's honestly like saying, because Elektra beat a human with claws, that is doesn't matter that T'Challa beat a human with significantly more abilities. the ebony blade is one of the most powerful swords in marvel comics and has been able to hurt gods before.

having the abilities of 20 martial artists vs. having the abilities of 36 vs. having 100 isn't going to make an opponent that much more dangerous. especially seeing as t'challa's opponent didn't only have the abilities of the top martial artists, he also had super powers. Moreover, Prometheus has destroyed Batman in combat before and Batman only beat him after hacking his helmet. So at most, the one you're using to prove Batman is more skilled has a one and one record with Batman.

You're wrong if you think batman and captain america are the measuring stick for martial artists. there are fighters in comic books that are referred to simply because of their ability to fight as that is the extent of their abilities. characters like shang-chi, shiva, richard dragon, and ogun might be beaten once or twice but you'll never see them get completely destroyed by other fighters due to their fighting ability alone. despite that, if you honestly believe that captain america is the measuring stick for marvel, than t'challa is still superior seeing as he's never lost to captain america and has beaten him a couple of times, while cap has never done the same. you could name any martial artist in marvel, if they've fought t'challa they've either been beaten or at most stalemated. that goes for taskmaster, wolverine, daredevil, and ironfist.

BP has better physical stats and way better suit and weapons then both DS or BM so he finishes off one of them quick