The DC Super Genius Hierarchy: What are Marvel's Analog's?

Originally posted by Golgo13
What are Marvel's Analog's to DC's super geniuses? Please match them, if you can.

[b]Earth based scientists
Alexander Luthor Jr. - Adult Franklin Richards
Ultra Humanite - Arnim Zola
Ray Palmer - Hank Pym
Lex Luthor - Mandarin
T.O. Morrow - Apocalypse
Dr. Sivanna - Mr. Sinister
Mr. Terrific - Tony Stark
I.Q. - M.O.D.O.K.
The Chief (Niles Caulder) - Hank McCoy
Professor Ivo - Wizard
Will Magnus - Forge
Gizmo - Tinkerer
Steel (John Henry Irons) - Madison Jeffries
Professor Haley - Reed Richards
Ted Kord - Scott Lang
Batman - Superior Spider-Man (since having merged with Parker's mind)
Prometheus - T'Challa
The Thinker - Leader
Calculator - Mad Thinker
Professor Stein - Bruce Banner
Toymaster (Hiro Okamura) - Amadeus Cho
Ryan Choi - Prodigy

space based geniuses
Captain Comet - Adam Warlock
Adam Strange - Noh-Varr
The Engineer - Vision

Alien Super Geniuses

Metron - High Evolutionary
Brainiac - Ultron
Sardath - Mentor
Lyrl Dox - Broo
Vril Dox - Maximus

Top tier geniuses

Superman - Hyperion
Orion - Thena
Martian Manhunter - Silver Surfer
Mr. Majestic - Blue Marvel

Time Travel geniuses

Rip Hunter - Nathaniel Richards
Epoch - Immortus
Per Degaton - Kang
Chronos (Both Clinton & Walker) - Zarkko [/B]

^^ Nice list, ODG.

BTW, I'd say Alec Holland/Beast would be better.

Originally posted by Golgo13
So, Scott Lang>>>Ray Palmer? If so, why do you think that?

Originally posted by Cogito
There aren't perfect analogues? 😬

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂
That's why I disagreed.

😂 See, I can laugh too.

Originally posted by Golgo13
😂 See, I can laugh too.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Then laugh at your threads.

Nope.

Originally posted by Golgo13
That's what I meant. Why did he lose power when he fought Superman?

The zone child made sure that the power wasn't to be used in a negative way (like destroying superman), and that's exactly what Lex did:

http://i.imgur.com/jrHXiWK.jpg

As for Doom, he is an overall Genius but in special fields there are indeed people who are better then him imo. I wouldn't say he is the most intelligent just one of the most versatile.

Lex would be his counterpart in DC imo, being inferior in some fields and superior in others.

And Superman is also an allround science genius, robotics, physics etc like his father, even beyond Lex and Doom. He just seldom uses it because of his powers.

And Batman > all in DC and Marvel. ^^

Originally posted by ODG

Originally posted by Epicurus
How is Luthor Jr equitable to Adult Frank?

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
As for Doom, he is an overall Genius but in special fields there are indeed people who are better then him imo. I wouldn't say he is the most intelligent just one of the most versatile.

Lex would be his counterpart in DC imo, being inferior in some fields and superior in others.

And Superman is also an allround science genius, robotics, physics etc like his father, even beyond Lex and Doom. He just seldom uses it because of his powers.

And Batman > all in DC and Marvel. ^^

And Kryptonian tech, on average, is more sophisticated than Earth tech... if we're talking iPads and microwaves. But based on the highest Earth-based comic book tech, Kryptonian tech isn't sh1t to comic Earth tech.

Superman, Orion, Surfer, Thena, Majestic, J'onn... they don't belong in this conversation. They're all super-geniuses by virtue of their respective cultures. Krypton, New Genesis, Zenn La, Olympia, Khera, Mars. Not because it was earned through personal scholarship or their own ingenuity. That's the difference between Kal El and Jor El. Between Orion and Himon. Etc., etc. The only exception apparently being Blue Marvel, Dr. Adam Brashear.

Originally posted by Epicurus
How is Luthor Jr equitable to Adult Frank?

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
As for Doom, he is an overall Genius but in special fields there are indeed people who are better then him imo. I wouldn't say he is the most intelligent just one of the most versatile.

Lex would be his counterpart in DC imo, being inferior in some fields and superior in others.

And Superman is also an allround science genius, robotics, physics etc like his father, even beyond Lex and Doom. He just seldom uses it because of his powers.

And Batman > all in DC and Marvel. ^^

Doom's a genius of the highest order, though, both in terms of feats and status. But Doom's breadth of knowledge extends to pretty much everything and to the highest degree. To that end, I can't think of a single person who's Doom's counterpart outside of just picking Lex because he's the smartest Earthbound bad guy scientist. And which fields would Lex be superior to Doom in?

Superman has some good tech and intelligence feats, sure. Him being across the board smarter than Lex is...unlikely (he has the potential to be if we were to completely alter his character and upbringing, though). He most certainly isn't smarter than Doom, though.

Batman's more or less a match for T'Challa.

Originally posted by ODG
Lex has to stand on a high-chair just to kiss Doom's a$$.

👆

Not familiar with Adult. How does he $hit on Alex?

shits on him without even removing his pants

If you guys want to believe this, more Power to you but Lex is a match and would be in any crossover for doom. PC Lex would even laugh at Dooms Intelligence. Superman is beyond humans if you consider raw intellect, with his well Superbrain He can become an expert in any field within minutes and would surpass both.

😉

Originally posted by ODG
Adult Franklin Richard sh1ts on Alexander Luthor Jr. in every way possible if it makes you feel any better about it. They're just similar in being plot devices.

Originally posted by Epicurus
No, I meant about them being super-genius analogs. TBH, I see adult Val belonging more to this list than Addult Frank. /shrug

Also Valeria admitted outright she was nothing compared to Franklin:

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
If you guys want to believe this

Originally posted by ODG
Adult Franklin Richards is a super-genius. He understands how to build universes from scratch (and has the power to do it), yet has a more intimate and intuitive understanding of the confluence of events and timelines that shape the Marvel Multiverse more than Nathaniel Richards does, and is basically an Abstract on par with Galactus in both power and importance.

Also Valeria admitted outright she was nothing compared to Franklin:

Nah, I doubt his ego-stroking of his younger self counts as him being smarter than Val. IIRC, Future Val is the same person who stepped into both Reed's and Doom's shoes to turn the pocket reality of the Bridge into a base for spreading the good work. "Here I can build". That kind of line truly indicates the girl who is supposed to be the daughter of Reed Ridhards and the goddaughter of Doctor Doom.

Anyways, agree to disagree if you still want to think of him as a super-genius, but I agree that Luthor Jr. is nothing compared to Adult Frank. Probably nothing compared to Val either in terms of pure smarts.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
If you guys want to believe this, more Power to you but Lex is a match and would be in any crossover for doom. PC Lex would even laugh at Dooms Intelligence. Superman is beyond humans if you consider raw intellect, with his well Superbrain He can become an expert in any field within minutes and would surpass both.

😉

👆 Pre-Crisis Lex would be a good match for Reed Richards himself. Same with PC Ultra Humanite and maybe Sivanaa.

Anyway, I believe TO Morrow was able to understand how to unlock the hidden space between dimensions while he was only 14. And I wouldn't put him in the league of Alex, who would be a good match for Reed.